[GeoStL] Re: Can I Log this as a Find?
- From: Dan Henke <thunder_monk@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:40:35 -0800 (PST)
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Mike,
The kind of people who would log a cache as you
suggest will do it anyway and they would not ask a
group for advice. I don't log caches I don't sign or
find pysically but if the situation arose where it was
dangerous to log it as is suggested in the previous
email and the cache had been seen just not removed and
logged in I would say "Yes go ahead and log a find" my
two cents worth..
Dan (Thunder)
--- Mike Griffin <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> -
> By this login you could have people logging caches
> that they thought they
> saw when in actuality it was never near. I think
> that an honest person
> wouldn't do this but you would find those that feel
> because it is too muddy,
> too high to climb, too far to reach they would just
> log it as if someone was
> around. You will also have those who are in a
> crowded area log it and say
> the park was full of people. There is no way to ever
> know if they truly
> found the cache.
>
> I have been in crowded places where I needed to be
> very discreet. I think
> that that is part of the challenge. To remove this
> would jeopardize the
> integrity of the game. I do not condone putting
> oneself in a dangerous
> situation but I feel that you could return with
> someone to finish the cache.
>
> Just my 2 cents
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Bensman" <jbensman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:09 AM
> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Can I Log this as a Find?
>
>
> > -
> > IMHO, if you found it (and you did) you should log
> it. I'd rather have
> > someone do what you did than to log it and show
> others where the cache is.
> > A principle that you actually have to sign the log
> when people are in the
> > area would encourage people not to be discrete in
> such situations.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Michael Chambers
> > > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:48 AM
> > > To: SLAGA Geocaching List
> > > Subject: [GeoStL] Can I Log this as a Find?
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > Being a relative newbie, I'd like to get the
> groups opinion on whether
> > > or not to claim a find I made today. Here's the
> situation.
> > >
> > > I searched out a geocache in a popular St. Louis
> park this afternoon. I
> > > found the cache. I saw it from where I was
> standing, but I did not
> > > approach it closely, or do anything to reveal
> its existence. As I got
> > > to this point (way down inside an enclosed area
> - with no easy escape
> > > route), I was approached by a guy who I saw
> follow me to this location.
> > > I was by myself, and he got way too close for
> my liking, so I
> > > immediately got out of there. This other guy
> went back to a pavilion
> > > that he had come from, that was close by.
> > >
> > > As I was leaving, I observed a couple of other
> guys go to the same
> > > location. Being curious, I watched to see if
> they were heading for the
> > > geocache. They did not, but they did go into
> the same remote, enclosed
> > > area. Not being that curious, I didn't stick
> around any more to see
> > > what they were up to. I had a pretty good idea.
> > >
> > > This evening, I asked my brother (a St. Louis
> City P.D. sex crimes
> > > detective) about this cache site, and he
> confirmed that this is a very
> > > popular meeting place for some members of the
> gay community. He said
> > > the guy who followed me was probably looking for
> a date.
> > >
> > > Now my dilemma. I need the group to let me
> know if I can properly log
> > > this as a find or not. I did find the cache,
> which is what the whole
> > > point is all about, but I did not open it, or
> log an entry in the cache
> > > log. I feel I should be able to claim this as a
> find, but not unless
> > > you all approve. I really don't want to go back
> there, and I think that
> > > the cache owner probably ought to move it to
> another, less popular
> > > location. I'll contact that person separately
> with this information.
> > > At the very least, this is not a comfortable
> location to be alone in,
> > > and in fact it could be dangerous.
> > >
> > > Now, a quick disclaimer. I'm certainly NOT gay
> bashing, and I'm not
> > > trying to imply that gays are someone to be
> afraid of. Quite the
> > > contrary. A very close member of our family was
> gay, and died of AIDS.
> > > I just think that this is not a very safe
> location for a geocache.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for your opinion on this,
> > > Leanman
> > >
> > >
> > >
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