[GeoStL] Re: Can I Log this as a Find?

  • From: "Mike Griffin" <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:00:47 -0600

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fingers got ahead of the brain... It should be: By this logic....

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Griffin" <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:48 AM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Can I Log this as a Find?


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> By this login you could have people logging caches that they thought they
> saw when in actuality it was never near. I think that an honest person
> wouldn't do this but you would find those that feel because it is too
muddy,
> too high to climb, too far to reach they would just log it as if someone
was
> around. You will also have those who are in a crowded area log it and say
> the park was full of people. There is no way to ever know if they truly
> found the cache.
>
> I have been in crowded places where I needed to be very discreet. I think
> that that is part of the challenge. To remove this would jeopardize the
> integrity of the game. I do not condone putting oneself in a dangerous
> situation but I feel that you could return with someone to finish the
cache.
>
> Just my 2 cents
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Bensman" <jbensman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:09 AM
> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Can I Log this as a Find?
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> > IMHO, if you found it (and you did) you should log it.  I'd rather have
> > someone do what you did than to log it and show others where the cache
is.
> > A principle that you actually have to sign the log when people are in
the
> > area would encourage people not to be discrete in such situations.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Michael Chambers
> > > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:48 AM
> > > To: SLAGA Geocaching List
> > > Subject: [GeoStL] Can I Log this as a Find?
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > Being a relative newbie, I'd like to get the groups opinion on whether
> > > or not to claim a find I made today.  Here's the situation.
> > >
> > > I searched out a geocache in a popular St. Louis park this afternoon.
I
> > > found the cache.  I saw it from where I was standing, but I did not
> > > approach it closely, or do anything to reveal its existence.  As I got
> > > to this point (way down inside an enclosed area - with no easy escape
> > > route), I was approached by a guy who I saw follow me to this
location.
> > >  I was by myself, and he got way too close for my liking, so I
> > > immediately got out of there.  This other guy went back to a pavilion
> > > that he had come from, that was close by.
> > >
> > > As I was leaving, I observed a couple of other guys go to the same
> > > location.  Being curious, I watched to see if they were heading for
the
> > > geocache.  They did not, but they did go into the same remote,
enclosed
> > > area.  Not being that curious, I didn't stick around any more to see
> > > what they were up to.  I had a pretty good idea.
> > >
> > > This evening, I asked my brother (a St. Louis City P.D. sex crimes
> > > detective) about this cache site, and he confirmed that this is a very
> > > popular meeting place for some members of the gay community.  He said
> > > the guy who followed me was probably looking for a date.
> > >
> > > Now my dilemma.    I need the group to let me know if I can properly
log
> > > this as a find or not.  I did find the cache, which is what the whole
> > > point is all about, but I did not open it, or log an entry in the
cache
> > > log.  I feel I should be able to claim this as a find, but not unless
> > > you all approve.  I really don't want to go back there, and I think
that
> > > the cache owner probably ought to move it to another, less popular
> > > location.  I'll contact that person separately with this information.
> > >  At the very least, this is not a comfortable location to be alone in,
> > > and in fact it could be dangerous.
> > >
> > > Now, a quick disclaimer.  I'm certainly NOT gay bashing, and I'm not
> > > trying to imply that gays are someone to be afraid of.  Quite the
> > > contrary.  A very close member of our family was gay, and died of
AIDS.
> > >  I just think that this is not a very safe location for a geocache.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for your opinion on this,
> > > Leanman
> > >
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