agreed, Ganesh. let us call them guidelines then, with tangible outcomes.
On 08/12/20 22:34, ganesh wrote:
On 2020-11-30 12:12, BLists wrote:
Thanks for the dynamics and depth of the discussions. Identified
priorities sound pretty good and concrete. Particularly inclusion of
the gender question is appreciable.
It would help if we can also have some kind of a roadmap/action plan
for the upcoming year lead to the next SFD.
Thanks again and am glad to be part of this enthusiastic exercise.
On 29/11/20 12:31, aimgreenviper wrote:
Dear fellow ec members,
The following are the noted minutes of forays meeting held online in jitsi
platform between 10:00 AM and 12:25 PM. Dated 29 Nov 2020.
The following minutes will take approx. 3 minutes of your time. Thus patient
review is requested to further criticize and add points if any is missing or
S/W target (Hacktivist)
H/W target (3D printing, Material …)
Mass front target (GLUG organizing)
Political/Critical Thinking Education (book reading, political economy, social
@Ragul, @Kamal : Representation of movements contribution based on free SW/HW
works - with several responsibilities. Earlier meetings for Django is conducted
to develop hactivist, where initially what kind of social factors to be
included were discussed and noted. Essential features based on such were
listed. For retrospection, introspection, … a means for measurement for self
@Kamal : Means of proper communication, scheduling, meetup, work need to be
collectively practised with commitment.
@Ragul : Lack of skill to commission necessary information services (existing
free software, like discuss) needs to be addressed. Taking responsibility for a
service by a member in EC will give them a skill development and industrial
exposure as a way to learn from the collective process. Thus tech sessions can
be organized based on the lack of skill.
@Prasanna : Prioritizing collective goal, equipping skills and nurturing
mindset for apt political ideology, practising before preaching (FOSS,…),
constructing mass fronts in GLUG form as primary focus. Measuring GLUGs
subjectively by EC and taking necessary guidance. Provide resources for GLUG
leaders (coordinators) and its members to ease them use FOSS OS, tools, etc…
Decentralizing tech sessions at GLUG level. Collective Peer Education on
theoretical frameworks, and being diverse - not necessarily only coding,
advocacy, documentation, publishing, . Federating GLUG’s for Freedom day
celebration. Ensuring the above as fundamental task for EC.
@Prasanna, @Balu : EC must not be the hegemonic structure, instead help guide
and organize the community structurally. Identifying priorities, and schedule
tasks concisely and discretely will help quantize, reflect and act. Identify
@Giri, @Infant : Introducing GLUGs to colleges in Pondy and in Cuddalore and
provide them with proper guiding resources. Generate social media contents that
in a way will provide a way for anticipatory recognition in institutions.
Discuss platform is expected.
@Harthi, @Kiruthiga : Peer education, and learning through transparently
exchanging knowns and interests. Addressing the Role vaccuum of each individual
members in the community.
@Ranjith, @Kiruthiga : 3D printer as a structural machine is ready, apart from
making it work using the firmware is required, by customizing it to fit for the
built structure is required.
@Giri : Android Mobiles, by DeGAFAMING, and dissemination to the wider public
needs to be done in ways of privacy, surveillance, attention, etc… is stressed.
@Sarath, @Noordine : Organizing interest groups, GLUGs, and mapping projects to
the GLUGs is recommended.
@Jagadeesh : Tech sessions to Social problems/solution framing mapping and
connection using hackathons.
@Akila : Recommendation of participation from general public, students in
events can be changed into knowledge seeking participation and make
certification romanticization as secondary.
@Jagadeesh : How to break the question, “So what, if my data is hoarded or
stole”, “So what, if my privacy is violated” …. among friend and family circles
@Maniraj : Knowing what is Hacktivism, who is a Hacktivist and thus how
Hacktivist will act as a instrumental platform in long term. How Sunday market
(local informal and formal organizing) interaction with the community is a
vital and important factor.
@Ranjith, @Prasanna : Knowledge gap, awareness gap between disciplines of
engineering… for instance awareness of influence of information technology and
software is different for computer science, IT students or profession.
Recognizing the learning curve involved in even using proprietary software (ex
: windows). Thus introducing FOSS as political/philosophical alternatives with
privacy, labour, transparency perspectives takes longer and hard work to
recognize. But attempting from use value, feature richness, economic advantage,
is working, and thus needs FOSS tool skill, points, social skill when ready to
work. Being Empathetic group is stressed. Increasing Membership as the social
solution is recommended for the questions and concerns raised.
@Arjun : Acknowledged @jagadeesh point. Inspired from @Ghanesh usage of
GNU/Linux. Disseminate from USE value, ATTRACTION point of view to general
@Kiruthiga : Recognized commons based alternatives, but the general public view
are different. Thus identifying common areas where overlapping personal use
cases as well as using of FOSS personally can by nature acknowledge and tie
with the community. Advised taking FOSS to youth rather than elders. Bring it
to authorities to impart policies for FOSS education.
@Arun : Acknowledged @Jagadeesh connectivity between tech and society. Thanked
OB and EC members for the improvement
@Giri : Kindling curiosity
@Cosmo, @Noordine : Stressed Women/Gender Participation by organizing a sub
ACTION POINTS (Enumerated based on Recognized Priorities)
1. GLUG organization in institutions, using social media influence, and existing
institutional network periodic and committed manner. Duty of EC with empowering
GLUG with necessary tech & social skills, political and theoretical knowledge
2. Women participation by organizing sub committee within EC.
3. Communication and exchange of skills, interests, internal sharing of
knowledge, etc… requires DISCUSS platform : leading to content generation,
critical discussion, forming interest groups.
4. EC consciously must stay away from being hegemonic structure, but guide and
criticize when its due by recommending political education, guiding, organize
actions, take decisions, commit roles and responsibilities.
5. Erection, commission, maintenance of necessary information services for the
community by the EC members.
The same is also attached for reference.
We are headed towards constructing a road map, based on the priorities
listed and agreed.
However, i learned that any social movement has to adapt the nonlinear
conditions that it grows in. In such situation, a linear roadmap, must
be spacious enough to include the nonlinearity. I am stating this with
my learned concern that whenever such roadmaps are constructed, the
community members take that as a "rule book operation" rather than a
guideline. Several times this constricts the adaptability, and in
contradiction also while we strive to broaden and bring the adaptation,
many find that we are digressing (might be) from the roadmap and goals.
We need a way to address this issue which is a parasital factor in