Check out http://www.sunflower.org They are a somewhat successful project to bring bandwidth out to the masses. Mike -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mike Neuliep, Illiana Internet | Providing solutions in networking, PO BOX 442, Dyer IN 46311 | security, bandwidth, colocation and Cell 708-932-9547 mike@xxxxxxxxxxx | much more. -- Cisco Certified -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- On Sun, 4 May 2003, John Billings wrote: > I would like to try a membership pledge drive, and other fundraising events. > Not only could Free Geek get people to subscribe to Internet service to help > support the mission, but many people would donate money if they knew that we > trying to provide computer labs w/ high bandwidth to the community. > > Is Free Internet access to certain areas a possibility? > > JohnGnuB > > On Sunday 04 May 2003 09:52 am, you wrote: > > Rick "Draki" Hughes, MLUG vice pres., demo-ed Webmin at MLUG. As > > interesting as the Webmin talk was, even more interesting were comments he > > made later about his moonlighting job at Nibble Information Systems, Inc. > > > > :: T1 for free > > > > FG/M needs high speed access in our neighborhood labs in order to fulfill > > our mission and advance our programs. > > > > Nibble sells full T1 lines at a base rate of $400/month in So. Bend and > > Mishawaka, $550/month in Elkhart, excluding circuit (local loop) charges. > > There are no fractional lines, only full T1. Circuit charges are $125 - > > $200 per month depending on location. > > > > Even better than the low commercial rate is Nibble's offer to donate T1 > > services to any local private nonprofit organization *free of charge*, > > excluding circuit charges. > > > > Nibble has an agreement with SBC/Ameritech and operates only where SBC is > > the local monopoly carrier. These offers may not be good outside St. Joseph > > and Elkhart counties. > > > > :: Wireless for free -- sort of, maybe > > > > Even more promising than free T1 is an unpublicized, but apparently real, > > program to lend organizations the wireless equipment necessary to create > > wireless neighborhood fan outs from the Nibble T1 installations. Rick > > believes the required minimum number of users to qualify for the program is > > ten. > > > > If Rick is right, FG/M can get a full T1 line into our labs for $200/month > > or less per site. Then, if we can find 10 subscribers per site who will pay > > $20/month, FG/M would get the use of a WAP broadcast antenna, base > > amplifier of some kind and (10) D-Link PC wireless cards. The subscription > > income would offset the monthly local loop charge. If FG/M signs up more > > subscribers, we might be able to purchase the wireless equipment from > > Nibble. If this works, FG/M would have a revenue stream to support the > > organization and build the neighborhood wireless access that we envisioned. > > > > There are four if clauses in the paragraph above. And more ifs implied in > > the next. > > > > The subscribers may have to commit to six months of service, make a deposit > > on the equipment or otherwise prove trustworthy to receive the loaned > > wireless cards. We may have to insure the gear against loss or damage. FG/M > > will need a closet or room at the facilities for the wireless gear and > > server(s). FG/M would do the marketing, invoicing, user installation and > > support, and the system admin and maintenance. That's a lot of work and > > expertise and ifs. > > > > According to Rick Nibble, in the end, is just interested in providing > > bandwidth. They are not interested in the ISP business per se. The company > > is apparently willing to prime the pump and that is exactly the kind of > > help we need. > > > > I plan to contact Nibble on Monday. If Nibble is too good to be true, we > > need to know right away. > > > > Nibble Information Services > > 716 LWW > > Osceola, IN 46561 > > (574) 674-2700 > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > To post to the list send email to <frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > You may unsubscribe or change your list settings by going to the list > > website at <//www.freelists.org/webpage/frgeek-michiana> > > > > To post to the list send email to <frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > You may unsubscribe or change your list settings by going to the list website > at <//www.freelists.org/webpage/frgeek-michiana> > To post to the list send email to <frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> You may unsubscribe or change your list settings by going to the list website at <//www.freelists.org/webpage/frgeek-michiana>