[frgeek-michiana] Re: T1 lines for free???!

  • From: mike neuliep <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 10:46:35 -0500 (CDT)

Check out http://www.sunflower.org

They are a somewhat successful project to bring bandwidth out to the
masses.

        Mike

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On Sun, 4 May 2003, John Billings wrote:

> I would like to try a membership pledge drive, and other fundraising events.
> Not only could Free Geek get people to subscribe to Internet service to help 
> support the mission, but many people would donate money if they knew that we 
> trying to provide computer labs w/ high bandwidth to the community.
> 
> Is Free Internet access to certain areas a possibility? 
> 
> JohnGnuB
> 
> On Sunday 04 May 2003 09:52 am, you wrote:
> > Rick "Draki" Hughes, MLUG vice pres., demo-ed Webmin at MLUG. As
> > interesting as the Webmin talk was, even more interesting were comments he
> > made later about his moonlighting job at Nibble Information Systems, Inc.
> >
> > :: T1 for free
> >
> > FG/M needs high speed access in our neighborhood labs in order to fulfill
> > our mission and advance our programs.
> >
> > Nibble sells full T1 lines at a base rate of $400/month in So. Bend and
> > Mishawaka, $550/month in Elkhart, excluding circuit (local loop) charges.
> > There are no fractional lines, only full T1. Circuit charges are $125 -
> > $200 per month depending on location.
> >
> > Even better than the low commercial rate is Nibble's offer to donate T1
> > services to any local private nonprofit organization *free of charge*,
> > excluding circuit charges.
> >
> > Nibble has an agreement with SBC/Ameritech and operates only where SBC is
> > the local monopoly carrier. These offers may not be good outside St. Joseph
> > and Elkhart counties.
> >
> > :: Wireless for free -- sort of, maybe
> >
> > Even more promising than free T1 is an unpublicized, but apparently real,
> > program to lend organizations the wireless equipment necessary to create
> > wireless neighborhood fan outs from the Nibble T1 installations. Rick
> > believes the required minimum number of users to qualify for the program is
> > ten.
> >
> > If Rick is right, FG/M can get a full T1 line into our labs for $200/month
> > or less per site. Then, if we can find 10 subscribers per site who will pay
> > $20/month, FG/M would get the use of a WAP broadcast antenna, base
> > amplifier of some kind and (10) D-Link PC wireless cards. The subscription
> > income would offset the monthly local loop charge. If FG/M signs up more
> > subscribers, we might be able to purchase the wireless equipment from
> > Nibble. If this works, FG/M would have a revenue stream to support the
> > organization and build the neighborhood wireless access that we envisioned.
> >
> > There are four if clauses in the paragraph above. And more ifs implied in
> > the next.
> >
> > The subscribers may have to commit to six months of service, make a deposit
> > on the equipment or otherwise prove trustworthy to receive the loaned
> > wireless cards. We may have to insure the gear against loss or damage. FG/M
> > will need a closet or room at the facilities for the wireless gear and
> > server(s). FG/M would do the marketing, invoicing, user installation and
> > support, and the system admin and maintenance. That's a lot of work and
> > expertise and ifs.
> >
> > According to Rick Nibble, in the end, is just interested in providing
> > bandwidth. They are not interested in the ISP business per se. The company
> > is apparently willing to prime the pump and that is exactly the kind of
> > help we need.
> >
> > I plan to contact Nibble on Monday. If Nibble is too good to be true, we
> > need to know right away.
> >
> > Nibble Information Services
> > 716 LWW
> > Osceola, IN 46561
> > (574) 674-2700
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
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