Re: [foxboro] GUIs and CLI
- From: Michael Toecker <michael.toecker@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:18:15 -0500
I still hear posts on the listserv about single core processors... Not
holding my breath.
Mike
//Not an owner of infrastructure, but I play one on TV.
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Joseph M. Riccardi <Joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> <And if we did get all that stuff, what would we do with the list?>
>
> Use it to cure world hunger; that will be much easier...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of Johnson, David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 12:07 PM
> To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [foxboro] GUIs and CLI
>
> Tom,
>
> So you want software to be intelligently designed, install correctly and be
> configurable without a lot of mucking about in obscure and undocumented
> places? I can get behind that. While we're at it, maybe meaningful error
> messages, useful help files, and good documentation could be included too.
> Perhaps Schneider will fix these problems, but I have my doubts.
>
> And if we did get all that stuff, what would we do with the list?
>
> Regards,
> David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of Tom Vandewater
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 12:26 PM
> To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [foxboro] GUIs and CLI
>
> I would be crazy to argue with anybody whether GUI or Command line is
> better. It is a personal preference. My point was IACC is a GUI interface
> that should be able to be installed and used without having to edit text
> files and run executables in the background to make it work. Those issues
> should have been addressed during the install. All of us dinosaurs had to
> learn all of the command line stuff just to make things work. We got so
> used
> to jumping through all the hoops using the command line that we have
> accepted/expected poorly designed applications with a lot of undocumented
> gotchas that continue to waste everyone's time. I don't mind using the
> command line to make my work easier, but I don't enjoy hacking around
> trying to make a poorly designed application function properly.
>
> Tom VandeWater
>
> > On Apr 2, 2014, at 4:52 AM, "Brown, Stanley"
> <stan.brown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > I second your thoughts on this!!
> >
> > I can tell someone in the middle of the night, after having been woken up
> from a sound sleep how to change something in a CLI. Not true for a GUI.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stan Brown [mailto:stanb@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Johnson, David
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 07:19 AM
> > To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [foxboro] GUIs and CLI
> >
> > Tom,
> > GUIs have their place for simple, well defined, limited choice tasks, or
> visualizing data. But try explaining one over the phone. Especially if
> you
> are artistically impaired, like me. And if they redesign the GUI for any
> reason, it's like starting from scratch.
> >
> > I'm sure there are shortcuts (which I don't know, and don't care to
> learn), but for me to change the PATH environment variable on windows 7
> involves 7 different mouse clicks in at least 5 distinct windows and you
> still have to know what you are looking for, and read a ton of options that
> are unrelated to the task at heand AND I still have to type the
> new_path_data.
> >
> > or
> >
> > PATH=$PATH;new_path_data
> > export PATH
> >
> > Which of these can you remember? Which can you support over the phone?
> Which stays the same from version to version?
> >
> > So yeah, I'm a dinosaur, because they survived for millions of years,
> with
> a brain the size of a walnut (and that's about all I've got to work with
> these days).
> >
> > And if you think what you just went through was bad, search for all the
> an_init files, and let me know if you can determine which one(s) are the
> master ones.
> >
> > Regards,
> > David Johnson
> > PREMIER System Integrators, Inc.
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> > Work :(256) 355-1732
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