All interesting to me (at least), Steve … but then I’m a language nerd!
Thanks,
Donna
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From: Steve
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 5:43 PM
To: fhs-65@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [fhs-65] Re: Local dialects are fading?
To the best of my knowledge, no. My wife streams a lot of Korean programs and
some of these are singing contests, somewhat akin to Americas Got Talent, The
Voice, etc. I never watch these so I'm making a rough comparison.
She was watching one of these program and chuckling because one of the judges,
a very popular long time singer, was making his assessment of one the
contestants and people were looking at him funny because they were not
understanding all of what he was saying. Now Oki, being from that same state
as the judge, knew exactly what he was saying and wondered out-loud why he was
using so much "South Jeolla" language (dialect) on a nationally broadcast
network program.
South Jeolla is the southern most state on the west side of the peninsula and
has a distinct dialect. Hundreds of years ago it was even a separate
country(kingdom) and developed it's own culture and dialect, and that still has
a minor impact. Through years of wars and conflict it eventually became part
of the Joseon Empire on the way to being the Korean Empire, which lasted until
the Japanese occupied the country from 1910 until their defeat in 1945.
Historical dramas are very popular in South Korea and most seem to take place
during the Joseon Era, and the dialect used in the dramas is "South Jeolla".
The reason I'm told is because "South Jeolla" most closely resembles the Joseon
dialect. Oki tells me that people actually study, or take "lessons", to learn
to speak the "South Jeolla" dialect. Ironically, I just read that English
words make up more that 10% of the Korean language now.
That's my first hand impression of the status of dialects in the country. I
don't speak any Korean but the accent of those that come from the southeast
port city of Busan is so distinct that even I can detect it when I hear it.
So these are my reason in a nutshell 😅(I know - TMI) why I feel that local
dialects are not fading in Korea.
Steve
On 01/14/2021 08:42, donnakasch (Redacted sender donnakasch for DMARC) wrote:
Steve, I wonder if local dialects are fading there? They are in much of Italy,
mainly, I would guess, as a result of TV and more travel and tourism. Sicily
has kept its dialect for sure, but has always been considered separate. If
you're from Sicily, you're not Italian... you're Sicilian.
Donna
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From: Steve <sfgrob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 1/13/21 9:19 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: fhs-65@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [fhs-65] Re: Accents like the southerners?
Very much so. Each region has a distinct accent and dialect, just like we do
here. And just like here, most people can tell where another person comes from
by the accent and dialect.
Well, most people anyway. When we go back people can never figure out where
Oki comes from. She grew up on a small rural farm in one of the southern most
parts of the country, but went off to high school in the second largest city of
the country, in the southwest corner and learned their way of speaking. Add in
nearly 50 years of speaking English daily, eroding her Korean skills, her
speech often baffles folks. She also has the ability to change her accent to
match the region she is in further confusing folk. We often get a good laugh
when people say to her how great her Korean is for a foreigner. They are
always surprised to learn she is actually from Korea.
More than you wanted to know so I'll stop here.
Stay safe, Steve
On 01/13/2021 18:24, Michael Brose (Redacted sender no1knows47 for DMARC) wrote:
Do they have southern accents like the southerners in America do?
Mike
On Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 04:20:07 PM CST, Steve <sfgrob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
This made me chuckle because the southerners on the Korean peninsula (South
Koreans) do not even have a word for "cousin". Cousins are the same as
brothers and sisters in their culture. Guess they really are southerners .
Steve
On 01/13/2021 15:41, Jane Pawelkiewicz (Redacted sender janepawelkiewicz for
DMARC) wrote:
Steve!! Forget the charts!! Maybe the southerners have the right idea, they are
all part of the clan!! 😃😃 Jane
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On Jan 13, 2021, at 1:12 PM, Steve <sfgrob@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Steve
On 01/13/2021 11:48, Karen Hutmacher wrote:
I have read that it has become sort of an "accepted" definition to be second
cousins since so many people worded it like that - but technically she was my
first cousin once removed. In other words, her dad and I were first cousins
but then she was one more generation "removed" from me. She and my sons would
technically be second cousins since they are the same generation - twice
removed from grandparents' generation (I think).
Karen
On 1/13/2021 10:02 AM, Jane Pawelkiewicz (Redacted sender janepawelkiewicz for
DMARC) wrote:
Thank you Karen, I’m sorry to hear about your cousin (can’t figure out how that
works 2nd cousin?) I just hope that this vaccine program gets more efficient so
we can look forward to living again! Jane
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From: Karen Hutmacher
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 7:26 PM
To: fhs-65@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [fhs-65] Re: Long Wait
Jane, I'm sorry for what your cousin's wife has had to go through - and
will continue to - but good news that she is progressing. I just lost
a relative to COVID at age 61 - her dad was my first cousin. Scary
scary thing...
Karen
On 1/10/2021 4:02 PM, Jane Pawelkiewicz (Redacted sender
janepawelkiewicz for DMARC) wrote:
Sounds like it will be a long wait for a vaccine for our age group
everywhere. According to our state “Crush Covid”, website this week medical
staff, hospital workers, first responders, prisoners & staff, clinic staff,
nursing home residents & staffs & the city of Central Falls residents are
being done! We need another manufacturer to get approval. There is a shortage
everywhere. Surely there is some company willing to make syringes too! I was
surprised that one city gets to be first, but their positivity rate is 30%!
I’ll be pissed I’d i find out it’s because they weren’t following the rules!!
75 and up is the next group. CVS & Walgreens are gearing up to do more than
just nursing homes so I hope that means they’ll do an appointment system like
they are doing for testing & have done for flu shots.
My cousin’s wife in NE has been in ICU on a vent for 5 weeks with Covid. Good
news she came off the ventilator yesterday! She had a tracheotomy & has a
long way to go, but good news. The virus attacked her bowel & has an
illeostomy. Poor thing. She’s 71.
Stay well everyone & be patient! Jane
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