RE: Server blacklisted

  • From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 07:54:36 -0500

You're right that scam isn't really the right term, since in order to
run a good scam, you should be making some money from it.
There's no sense in going over the entire "to RBL or not to RBL"
conversation, since its been done to death. In concept, they could be a
good idea. However, in practice, I've found that most of them fail to
provide a responsible service and they don't take responsibility for
damages they might inflict by the false positives and they fail to
perform due diligence in informing the alleged "non-compliant"
individual of the problem before BLing them.
Tom <> 
Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 <> 
MVP -- ISA Firewalls



        From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 12:28 AM
        To: [ExchangeList]
        Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Server blacklisted
        I think that might have been valid a few years ago.  
        Many are approachable and reputable.
        Now it depends on whether the RBL fits your enterprise.  
        That may only be determined by trial and error, however.
        To suggest they are all scams is just silly.  
        But it is only one tool.  


        From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:MBlackstone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:01 AM
        To: [ExchangeList]
        Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Server blacklisted
        I don't know about the scams part, but I agree. Don't use them.
I'm not placing control of my email in the hands of vigilantes. There
are much better technologies available that give you control over what
mail you receive.


        From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:39 AM
        To: [ExchangeList]
        Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Server blacklisted
        Hey Bruce,
        Fact is that all RBLs are scams. Don't use them. There is much
better technology out there to help you in your war against spam.

                -----Original Message-----
                From: Bruce J. Rose [mailto:brose@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
                Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:16 AM
                To: [ExchangeList]
                Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Server blacklisted




                Thanks for the info.  I have checked for open relay and
my mail server does not allow relay.  I found a internal fax server that
was infected with backdoor and hacktools and clean it up it may have
been relaying via being on the inside of the network.  I do not think I
am spamming now, I have turned on message tracking to manually check.
After looking up info on Blars it looks like this guy is not reliable
and does not work and play well with others in other words he might even
be a scam I'm am not sure yet.  He is the only one to blacklist my
server.  I am still in the process of learning the nuts and bolts of
spaming; I will report back to the list the knowledge I acquire on this
problem.  I am also installing MS IMF.



                Thanks Bruce Rose


                From: Mike Dufoe [mailto:dufoem@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
                Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:03 AM
                To: [ExchangeList]
                Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Server blacklisted



                Check this out Bruce...





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