> I agree for the most part, and I realize this is more of a rant than > anything else, but are full-time 1000-hat small/med biz IT admins (who > are forced to teach themselves most of what they know because their > employers don't believe in investing more into proper education and > training) exempt from this criticism/dislike, or just consultants who > pretend to know more than they really do? Nope, I heap those "so-called" admins into the same bucket, as well as their bosses. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You