[etni] Re: ministry response to English teachers
- From: "kobi" <kobilavy@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'etni'" <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 00:34:43 +0200
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Hi everyone,
I'd like to comment about this as well...
Well, I also have some things I agree about this letter and some things =
I
don't (both the letter written by the "English teachers" and the =
response)
but there's another thing that really disturbs me about the response of =
the
so called "NativeEnglishSpeakers"... When did the group, the one group, =
of
English Teachers in Israel become 2 groups??? When did the Native =
Speakers
become a different group than we "Sabre" teachers??=20
I have to say that I find this notion extremely disturbing, next thing =
we
know there's an ETNIEG (etni for English Speakers)=20
Just a thought...
Kobi
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Hi,
I don't know who "NativeEnglishSpeakers" are, but agree to every word
they/he/she wrote. The answer given by the ministry doesn't hold water.
Mordechai Mendelkern
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Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 6:48 AM
Subject: [etni] Re: ministry response to English teachers
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> We have been quiet lately because - despite everything else - we still =
> believed in the system. We still believed that over the past years,
through
> hard work both on the part of teachers and Ministry personnel, an=20
> element
of
> mutual respect has been created.
>
> A mutual respect where teachers learned to question, understand better =
> and appreciate new initiatives set out for them by the decision=20
> makers. And where the decision makers learned that teachers have=20
> something to say,
that
> their experience in the field both past and present lends valuable=20
> input
to
> the decision making process.
>
> But now we are in danger of losing all of this. For we were told that=20
> the next day would be bright and sunny. And when we woke up that=20
> morning and
saw
> that it was raining, no one believed us. No one in the Ministry was=20
> even willing to look out the window and see that it was raining.
>
> We now know that it didn't matter how many of us reported the rain. It =
> didn't matter what happened that day on the test. The Ministry had=20
> decided beforehand that it would be bright and sunny, and they will=20
> stick to this prediction no matter what.
>
> We ask you - those of you who are a part of the decision making=20
> progress - is it worth throwing out the hard earned respect that has=20
> been acquired between the Ministry and teachers in the field over the=20
> past decade just because of one test? Is it worth going back ten,=20
> twenty, thirty years
where
> it is YOU against US, just because you can't admit that maybe you were =
> wrong?
>
> If so, this is a very sad day in the history of English teaching in
Israel.
>
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