**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** Hi, I read Judy Steiner's letter, and while I disagree strongly with many of the points she's made there, I'm going to specifically take issue with one of them: her claim that the sample exams in the NBA handbook were adequate enough to prepare students for Modules E-G. With all due respect, Judy said something quite different at the chat shop at the ETAI conference. According to her, the sample exams WERE NOT WRITTEN BY THE PEOPLE WHO WRITE THE BAGRUT EXAMS and therefore WERE NOT NECESSARILY AN ACCURATE REFLECTION OF THE ACTUAL TESTS. (Sorry for all the caps, but I think that this deserves it.) So who are you kidding here, Judy? (Not to mention that, as both teacher and textbook writer, it took me about five minutes of glancing at the test samples, especially from Module C on, to realize that either the level of the Bagrut was going to be lowered drastically, or the samples were much too easy.) In addition, saying that the Ministry isn't responsible for materials put out by publishers is also laughable in this case. Considering that the Ministry refused to expend money on preparing more sample exams (whatever good that would have done us), what exactly were teachers supposed to do other than turn to the publishers for help? And would it have been any different had we all adopted Judy's advice of writing our own Bagrut practice materials? I doubt the Ministry would have given its approval on that, either... BTW, I personally have no stake in changing this year's Moed Aleph results, since my 11th grade students took Modules A, B and C and did extremely well. It's the principle of the matter, along with its broader implications for all of us English teachers, that has me reacting so strongly. All the best, Rivka --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####