[etni] Re: gap between the tsiun shnati and the bagrut exam
- From: "Motti Mendelkern" <motti46@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <batop@xxxxxxxxx>, <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:26:16 +0200
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Dear "confused Teacher" and other etnier,
A. I have been teaching here for 35 years so I should know something.
B. The latest version of the Bagrut definitely don't test English or
language skills.
C. Native speakers whose English is better than mine get low grades. No one
would claim they "don't know English"
D. Students whose English is weaker but are intelligent, get much higher
grades than the native speakers!
C. If the ministry declines to admit that the English Exam has turned into
an alternative for a psychometric exam, or some kind of Intelligence test,
we teachers should tell them something and not hide our identities.
It's time we did something rather than complain here.
MOrdechai Mendelkern
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From: "jif mak" <batop@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:46 PM
Subject: [etni] gap between the tsiun shnati and the bagrut exam
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> I wonder if you could please help me understand the following:
>
> I teach the 5 pts students. My students did well on modules F and G both
> in the mivhan shnati and on the bagrut. For some unknown reason their
> grades where very poor when the bagrut results were published. They
> insist that they did very well on the bagrut; I also believe so. They
> checked up their answers on the net and newspapers. Most of them got a
> grade higher than 90 in their magen. My question here: do the markers
> intend to give lower grades purposefully or do they try to prove that they
> are good markers by giving low marks.
> As a result the magen was canceled and the students got lower averages
> that we all expected; averages that by all means do not show their real
> high level in English.
> Did any other teachers encounter this problem? why is there a tendency to
> give low grades by markers?
> My final question: If a student takes modules c,d and e (4 pts) and then
> takes modules f and g, how will his grade be calculated.
>
> I really thank you deeply for taking the time to help me in my confusion
> here and i am looking forward to your answers.
>
> respectfully,
> the confused teacher.
>
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