**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** I just want to comment on one point here - F and G both have 40% writing. So the only thing the pupils could have checked is the unseen. They have no way of knowing how good their writing was. (And I have often found wrong answers in the newspapers and the internet sites.) sara g sara g in israel sarag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx sarag@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "jif mak" <batop@xxxxxxxxx> To: <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:46 PM Subject: [etni] gap between the tsiun shnati and the bagrut exam **** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** I wonder if you could please help me understand the following: I teach the 5 pts students. My students did well on modules F and G both in the mivhan shnati and on the bagrut. For some unknown reason their grades where very poor when the bagrut results were published. They insist that they did very well on the bagrut; I also believe so. They checked up their answers on the net and newspapers. Most of them got a grade higher than 90 in their magen. My question here: do the markers intend to give lower grades purposefully or do they try to prove that they are good markers by giving low marks. As a result the magen was canceled and the students got lower averages that we all expected; averages that by all means do not show their real high level in English. Did any other teachers encounter this problem? why is there a tendency to give low grades by markers? My final question: If a student takes modules c,d and e (4 pts) and then takes modules f and g, how will his grade be calculated. I really thank you deeply for taking the time to help me in my confusion here and i am looking forward to your answers. respectfully, the confused teacher. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx ##### ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####