[etni] Fw: re: poll suggestion: old bagrut vs. modules
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- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 06:48:53 +0200
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From: tirtza gottlieb - tirtzagot@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: poll suggestion: old bagrut vs. modules
I absolutely agree with Linda.
I was always wondering how can students write projects in English whereas
they never write projects in Hebrew which is their native language.
The problem of project plagiarism people discussed here is a result of
demanding students to do an assignment which is in most cases too big for
them.
Linda wrote:
I'm not saying the students don't learn anything. However, in order to do
the projects according to Bagrut regulations, if you will, we would need to
fit into our already extremely overloaded workload, the time to teach them
how to take articles and summarize them, using their own words.. which, I
think, is unrealistic, especially since they have no clue as to how to do
that in Hebrew! I am for something on a much lighter basis, that could be
fun and rewording for the students, where they would research and learn
about a topic of interest. The important accomplishment would be that they
not only read and understood articles written in authentic English, but
they broadened their horizons as well. Short, sweet and simple!
Carmen wrote:
As far as I know, a language is a verbal means of communication, most of
my
teaching is spent on developing verbal skills, such as idiomatic
expressions, having discussions, pronunciation and even (I know this is a no
no) asking the students to learn expressions by heart!! Therefore, I suggest
we keep the oral bagrut, however unfair and subjective it is, after all a
live language isn't based on unseens with incredibly tricky questions which
don't test communicative skills, but rather how much a student can get into
the thoughts of the writer of the exam.
I have made a survey of how the students feel about the projects and they
all said they learned something from them, even the fact that they took it
from the internet actually helped them to read and summarize.
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