**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** > Well, then, if the teacher KNEW that they cheated and gave them a zero, they > HAVE been penalized, haven't they? Why didn't you ask the teacher? Only because this was not my experience -- the original poster was anonymous and wasn't me (in fact, I'm not even testing orally this year). > The > point is, though, that the oral project tests the kids on an interview and > the project. The kids are supposed to talk about their project and you give > them a grade on how they organized and presented their stuff. Yes, exactly, which is exactly why I don't agree with the posters who felt that the students should have been given a zero on the oral exam. They DID talk about "their" project. If it wasn't theirs, they were penalized by their teacher -- that's not the job of the oral examiner. > > I have no doubt that there is great potential in implementing projects, and > that when used for testing, the backwash in the classrooms can be fantastic > if done properly; devastating, if done without proper training. I agree that they do have some benefit, though after two years of doing projects, I'm still not convinced that the benefit justifies the effort. Bari ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####