[elky] Re: AN Hose

  • From: Robert Adams <elcam84@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:07:31 -0600

            Those hydraulic ones are really nice. You are right on about
cutting and deburring the line. Any knick in it and it'll tear at that
point. I like using an abrasive cut off blade to cut it as it leaves a nice
finish with little cleanup metalwise but it leaves black gunk from the wheel
that needs to be sprayed out with the metal chips.

                 I had picked a goofy brand fuel mileage extender thing. It
had a copper tube swedged at both ends with a triangular piece of what
looked like zinc in it. Got it for $1 at an estate sale. It had a couple
really nice very high quality hose with saginaw fittings on the ends. Should
have kept the addy for the place and asked to buy the fittings and hose. I
used one or two of those hoses in my adapting of lines and they are holding
up great. It was a black hose but had a outer red rubber jacket on it.
Thicker than most but extremely good quality, not a clue who made it. The
fittings were brass and crimped to the hose and very nice as well.

             I really wish there were saginaw fittings for the plastic fuel
line. That stuff is really nice to work with and one piece installs are
easy. The tool that installs the fittings on the tube is like a modified
caulking gun. Very similar in function to PEX in houses.


                       Robert Adams

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Chris Lindh <chrislindh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I remembered you using the repair sections, good idea.  Today I went by the
> friendly neighborhood parts store bright and early and I was startled by a
> parts person that was fluent in English... he rented me a double flare tool
> and I made the adapter line in the photo attached.
>
> Using the tool was fun, if you follow the instructions it flares
> beautifully, especially when you use the correct side of the flaring jaws!
> De-burring  and chamfering the line before flaring are the most important
> steps.
>
> I'd like to find a fitting that will go from 16mm x 1.5 o-ring to a hose
> barb, but I'll probably buy another repair section and slide the hose
> over... I've got the nice EFI fuel clamps.
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Robert Adams <elcam84@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>           I have a regular FI filter with saginaw fittings on both ends. I
>> used short repair sections from the swapmeet (help section stuff) to plumb
>> it in and tied that into my other tubing.
>>
>>              ALso forgot to mention the AN hose with the extra outer
>> jacket is nice to help prevent abrasion but not a end all cure to be used
>> instead of clamps.
>>
>>                As for the filter. I would assume they are both made from
>> the same laser welded shell and there is little need to change the filter
>> medium inside as well. From a manufacturing point of view there is no reason
>> for it to be any different except for the fitting type. No reason to make it
>> any different.  I thought about buying a saginaw fitting tool but they run a
>> minimum of $250.
>>
>>
>>                           Robert Adams
>>
>>
>> I'm thinking about simplifying my fuel line... if I take the G3727 filter
>> out of the equation I don't need nearly as many fittings, currently- 5/8-18
>> inverted flare to 6AN to 16MM-1.5
>>
>> I found a fuel filter for an '83 Camaro with Cross Fire (Delco GF 478 ,
>> Fram G3694) features a barb inlet and a 5/8-18 inverted flare outlet: (great
>> resource for swap info) 
>> http://www.aces.edu/~parmega/efi/fittings.txt<http://www.aces.edu/%7Eparmega/efi/fittings.txt>
>>
>> I could mount one of these back at the beginning of the line (above the
>> rearend) and that would cut out 2 fittings at the back of the line, and then
>> I could run the -6 hose straight from the hard line to the fuel rail,
>> cutting out the G3727 filter and the adapters I have to use for it.
>>
>> The big question is will a filter for a Cross Fire TBI hold 50 psi?
>>
>>

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