This reminds me, I always wanted to read Xenophobe's Anabasis.
The critical issue is at point number 3.
Once the retreating corps is at Koenigsberg it has to move again. If it moves
again it is moving AWAY from the closes depot, and this is completely against
the rules.
Since the retreat has to TOWARDS the depot and not away from depot we have to
see what is the next despot that would satisfy this condition.
The only depot the corps can move towards after Koenigsberg is the one at Riga.
So the only logical step left is to adopt the next closest depot and move
towards there.
Personally I would not vote to exclude the depot under siege, in future we
might have a similar situation but no enemy corps present to force further
movement.
On September 30, 2017 7:16:16 PM CEST, Makis Xiroyannis
<makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
* If it is occupied then it is up to the player who retreats the corps
to
place them in the closest distance from that depot.*
and where did you find this part?
As Tiron said, retreat must every time* be towards the closest depot.*
*7.5.2.10.3.1: All retreats must be into an adjacent land area that is
closest*
*(any closest area, if several qualify equally) to the nearest depot of
any*
*nationality in the losing forceforce, or if none is on the map,
towards
that*
*force's nearest controlled national capital city.*
Correct? Now lets take it it step by step, and lets agree for example's
sake that Koningsberg is the closest.
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1. First retreat, corps retreats to east prussia. We all agree it is
how it
should be. Bugger, the area is occupied. According to the rules, it
retreats once more.
2. Second retreat the Russian corps retreats to Koningsberg. Bugger,
there
is a hostile corps again. According to the rules, it retreats once
more.
3. Time for third retreat: Where does it go? if it retreats to an empty
area around Koningsberg* then it no longer retreats towards the closest
depot*. And this is not permitted by the rules.
Therefore
*either* we re-establish a new "closest" depot from there, and continue
the
retreat as desribed in the rules, or we assume for this reason* that
depots
in cities under siege were not supposed to satisfy the retreat rule in
the
first place!* Why? Because it is simply impossible, no matter the
number of
retreats for a corps to actually reach an under siege depot, and will
at
some point be forced to conflict with the rule "always retreat to the
closest depot"
In both of the above "either" cases, the Russian corps must continue
towards Riga. A hostile French corps is there, so again it retreats
once
more.
And so it happens and we have a new march of the 10,000, a glorious
retreat
into hostile territory :) (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Thousand_(Greek_mercenaries)
On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Yannis Sykamias
<ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Apologies loremaster for questioning your opinion, but where do therules
mention that if the closest depot is occupied then they should moveto the
next depot?in
I agree with your view on the rules and the realism in the game, but
this case there is no reference for unoccupied depot at all orrepeating
this process to another depot!south
If for example there was another Russian depot three districts away
from Danzig then what could happen in this case?If it
I believe that the rules say just go to the closest friendly depot.
is occupied then it is up to the player who retreats the corps toplace
them in the closest distance from that depot.on
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*Subject:* [eiagreek] Loremaster's view on the mater of retreats
*After browsing through the countless mails under four different
(at least there is no File Uploaded topic :P), it's time for theLoremaster
to speak.*to
The rules are clear.
The closest depot from Danzig is in Koenigsberg and the shortest way
reach it is through the East Prussian area occupied by a Prussiancorps
east of Danzig. Since it is occupied, it then moves into Koenigsbergin
which is also occupied by enemy corps.
Now (repeating the same process) the closest depot to Koenigsberg is
Riga and the shortest way there is through the area directly North ofthe
Koenigsberg. Since that area is also occupied by the enemy (Prussian
controlled French corps) the Russian corps retreats one more area to
North. That is the one directly below (South-West to be precise)Riga.
There it's journey ends...past,
*That's my 2c. **For reasons I have mentioned multiple times in the
I am not a big fan of house rules and realism is not as straitfowardas it
may seem. **Where my opinion leads us and who shares the frame ofmind I
know not but at least I've answered the call of duty :P*
