@Mak Please don't make me go through the mails again to count votes :'(
Not only that but since I've seen conflicting stuff (and different
interpretations) as well...
@Yannis Dare you question the Loremaster? :P
Always imho (saying the same stuff with Mak differently):
7.5.2.10.3.3 mentions:
If the area retreated contains an unbesieges enemy corps ... the force is
retreated (same rules as 7.5.2.10.3.1.) until an open area is reached.
I interpret the bold part as: every move taking place in the retreat is
governed by the same rule which is:
(7.5.2.10.3.1.) all retreats must be into an adjacent land area that is closest
to the nearest depot
So, you move your army towards the nearest depot until you reach an open area.
By your interpretation you actually move away from the closest depot, thus
breaking the one and only retreat rule of the game.
I assume that since you are actually in the same area with a depot, the nearest
depot becomes the one that is closer to the said area. Why shouldn't we apply
rule 7.5.2.10.3.3 if we reach the depot area anyway? Based on your
interpretation, if someone loses a battle while on a depot, the army would move
just one area away since the closest depot is adjacent?
Also note that if the "target" depot is not changed, if the corps moves one
area away then, it would actually have to move back (but it can't since a corps
can't retreat into the same area twice) since it always has to move towards the
closest depot.
Anyway, if you reach a depot by retreating and it is occupied, the same rules
would apply as if you lost a battle there and started your retreat from the
said area (towards the nearest depot) since every retreat move is governed by
the same rules.
I think that threre is no point in further discussing this :\
We have to reach a conclusion.
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From: eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf
of Yannis Sykamias <ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 30 September 2017 19:37:59
To: eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [eiagreek] Re: Loremaster's view on the mater of retreats
Apologies loremaster for questioning your opinion, but where do the rules
mention that if the closest depot is occupied then they should move to the next
depot?
I agree with your view on the rules and the realism in the game, but in this
case there is no reference for unoccupied depot at all or repeating this
process to another depot!
If for example there was another Russian depot three districts away south from
Danzig then what could happen in this case?
I believe that the rules say just go to the closest friendly depot. If it is
occupied then it is up to the player who retreats the corps to place them in
the closest distance from that depot.
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From: eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf
of T. B. <scotland_above_all@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 6:51:18 PM
To: eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [eiagreek] Loremaster's view on the mater of retreats
After browsing through the countless mails under four different subjects (at
least there is no File Uploaded topic :P), it's time for the Loremaster to
speak.
The rules are clear.
The closest depot from Danzig is in Koenigsberg and the shortest way to reach
it is through the East Prussian area occupied by a Prussian corps east of
Danzig. Since it is occupied, it then moves into Koenigsberg which is also
occupied by enemy corps.
Now (repeating the same process) the closest depot to Koenigsberg is in Riga
and the shortest way there is through the area directly North of Koenigsberg.
Since that area is also occupied by the enemy (Prussian controlled French
corps) the Russian corps retreats one more area to the North. That is the one
directly below (South-West to be precise) Riga. There it's journey ends...
That's my 2c. For reasons I have mentioned multiple times in the past, I am not
a big fan of house rules and realism is not as straitfoward as it may seem.
Where my opinion leads us and who shares the frame of mind I know not but at
least I've answered the call of duty :P
