Dear Rick and others who may be interested, George may beat me to answering your question, but I'll give it a try anyway. We may have different solutions. I often find columned material is easiest done putting only the first column in the print file, then completing each line in the braille file after the rest of the document is set up as desired. However, yours is an example where setting it all up in print with codes would be fairly easy. My answer assumes that you are following North American (BANA) rules. I'll start with the simpler case in which you don't need leader dots, which is easily done by setting tab stops instead of using [tab] or [taa]. Then I'll explain how to change things to get the leader dots. First, you need to know how many cells your longest entry or heading line in the left-hand column will take. We'll assume 15 cells is the correct number (or you can use trial and error). Next you need to clear the tabs, because as I understand it, the default is a stop every 2 cells. So enter the code: [ctb]. Next set tab 1 at cell 18 (15-cell width plus 2 blank cells plus 1). The code will be entered: [stb1l18], that is "set tab 1 to left align at cell 18". Now you start your columns. Type the 1st line of the 1st heading, then press the tab key, which enters the code: [>], and type the 1st line of the 2nd column heading, followed by [l]. Then do the same with the second line of the column headings. The line between the headings and the entries is a little tricky, and requires you to enter the ascii symbols to be included untranslated, as follows: [q~"33333333333333]. This will give a dot 5 followed by 14 cells of dots 25. Press tab and repeat, then end the line. The rest is just entering your numbers separated by the tab key with [l] or [<] at the end of each line. You should have your 2 headings separated by 2 cells, followed by the column separation lines and your numbers below the headings. To get the leader dots is more complicated because you can't use the tab key, and because there normally is just 1 cell between the last leader and the next column, while you need 2 blank cells. So first, you will set the tab 1 cell to the left of the previous example: [stb1l17]. (You'll be adding a blank space at the beginning of the second column.) Do the headings and separation line as above, except press the space bar after the tab key. When you get to your numeric entries, replace the tab with the code: [#1:p~"], which means "go to tab stop 1, adding partial fill with dot 5 (ascii ")" and press the space bar once before entering the second column number. All this could be done without setting the tab, but using [tab17:p~"] and space bar between columns, and [tab18] between column headings. I just wanted to illustrate use of set tabs, too. I tried all this myself and it worked, assuming I've described it correctly above! Lynn Carroll Utah Schools for the Deaf and the Blind -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Boggess Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 8:55 AM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: taa, tab, and tas codes George, I'm sorry about this serious omission. Both columns have numbers. Each column will have a heading which will be on two lines, each of which is about 15 characters long. I would want partial fill leaer dots between since there will be quite a bit of space between them. I want the columns left aligned. Thanks. Rick From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 10:08 AM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: taa, tab, and tas codes Hi Rick, This could become a very long message, so perhaps you could say what sort of material you will have in the columns, and I'll work from there. Is it just plain text, or do you need a column of figures. And if you need figures, how do you want them aligned? Finally, do you want leader dots between left and right columns? George. From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Boggess Sent: 25 November 2004 15:16 To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] taa, tab, and tas codes I'm wanting to set up a two-column table. At one point, I thought I'd just set a tab. However, I've been doing some reading on the taa, tab and tas codes. Would using one of these codes be best? Could someone please elaborate further on these codes and the differences? Rick Boggess This Message has been scanned for viruses by McAfee Groupshield. * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *