[duxuser] Re: taa, tab, and tas codes

To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 03:01:19 -0000
Hi Lynn,

You did indeed beat me to it, and an excellent explanation.

Unfortunately the message seems to have lost its colons in
some of the codes.  For example [stb1l18] where I believe it
should read:-

The code will be entered: [stb1:l:18], that is "set tab 1 to
left align at cell 18".

By the way, in DBT 10.5 there is, I hope, an explanation in
the Help files under Codes, Alignment, Setting Tabs.

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lynn
Carroll
Sent: 30 November 2004 23:53
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: taa, tab, and tas codes

Dear Rick and others who may be interested,

George may beat me to answering your question, but I'll give
it a try anyway.  We may have different solutions.  I often
find columned material is easiest done putting only the
first column in the print file, then completing each line in
the braille file after the rest of the document is set up as
desired.

However, yours is an example where setting it all up in
print with codes would be fairly easy.  My answer assumes
that you are following North American (BANA) rules.  I'll
start with the simpler case in which you don't need leader
dots, which is easily done by setting tab stops instead of
using [tab] or [taa]. Then I'll explain how to change things
to get the leader dots.  

First, you need to know how many cells your longest entry or
heading line in the left-hand column will take.  We'll
assume 15 cells is the correct number (or you can use trial
and error).  Next you need to clear the tabs, because as I
understand it, the default is a stop every 2 cells.  So
enter the code: [ctb].  Next set tab 1 at cell 18 (15-cell
width plus 2 blank cells plus 1).  The code will be entered:
[stb1l18], that is "set tab 1 to left align at cell 18".

Now you start your columns.
Type the 1st line of the 1st heading, then press the tab
key, which enters the code: [>], and type the 1st line of
the 2nd column heading, followed by [l].  Then do the same
with the second line of the column headings.  The line
between the headings and the entries is a little tricky, and
requires you to enter the ascii symbols to be included
untranslated, as follows: [q~"33333333333333].  This will
give a dot 5 followed by 14 cells of dots 25. Press tab and
repeat, then end the line.  The rest is just entering your
numbers separated by the tab key with [l] or [<] at the end
of each line.

You should have your 2 headings separated by 2 cells,
followed by the column separation lines and your numbers
below the headings.  To get the leader dots is more
complicated because you can't use the tab key, and because
there normally is just 1 cell between the last leader and
the next column, while you need 2 blank cells.  So first,
you will set the tab 1 cell to the left of the previous
example: [stb1l17].  (You'll be adding a blank space at the
beginning of the second column.)  Do the headings and
separation line as above, except press the space bar after
the tab key.

When you get to your numeric entries, replace the tab with
the code:
[#1:p~"], which means "go to tab stop 1, adding partial fill
with dot 5 (ascii ")" and press the space bar once before
entering the second column number.

All this could be done without setting the tab, but using
[tab17:p~"] and space bar between columns, and [tab18]
between column headings.  I just wanted to illustrate use of
set tabs, too.

I tried all this myself and it worked, assuming I've
described it correctly above!

Lynn Carroll
Utah Schools for the Deaf and the Blind

-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Rick Boggess
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 8:55 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: taa, tab, and tas codes


George, I'm sorry about this serious omission.  Both columns
have numbers.  Each column will have a heading which will be
on two lines, each of which is about 15 characters long.  I
would want partial fill leaer dots between since there will
be quite a bit of space between them.  I want the columns
left aligned.

Thanks.

Rick  




From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of George Bell
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 10:08 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: taa, tab, and tas codes


Hi Rick,

This could become a very long message, so perhaps you could
say what sort of material you will have in the columns, and
I'll work from there.

Is it just plain text, or do you need a column of figures.
And if you need figures, how do you want them aligned?
Finally, do you want leader dots between left and right
columns?

George.






From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Rick Boggess
Sent: 25 November 2004 15:16
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] taa, tab, and tas codes


    I'm wanting to set up a two-column table.  At one point,
I thought I'd just set a tab.  However, I've been doing some
reading on the taa, tab and tas codes.  Would using one of
these codes be best?  Could someone please elaborate further
on these codes and the differences?

Rick Boggess



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