George, Some manufacturers (notably Index and ViewPlus) do use Windows-based methods for form management. I'm not convinced that this makes it possible for an end user to set up new form sizes without an IT person. But at least an IT person without braille experience could get the job done. However, we cannot at this time depend on an embosser supporting Windows form management. That's why we still have our own mechanism for paper size setup. I expect we'll have our own system for some time. - Peter -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:09 AM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: paper size Hi David, As Peter has intimated, the paper size issue is a decidedly hairy one where the user is concerned. Unlike the print printer industry, braille embosser development, a minute sector by comparison, appears to have gone off in various tangents where paper handling is concerned. Even embosser escape sequences vary, not only between manufacturers, but between various models, and in some cases even change between firmware versions of the same model. That said, I'm confident that not only is this issue at the top of Duxbury's "To Do" list for the next version, but the development of Microsoft's Vista is pretty much going to impose standards on the hardware manufacturers. All I can offer you at this time, is an assurance that we (TVS that is) will do our absolute utmost to help you resolve any problems which come up at the college. George. -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 23 March 2006 11:10 To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: paper size George Thank you for the information you sent. The embosser technician did change the copy of DBT 10.5 that is attached to our Theil Beta-X3 but clearly my point is very valid as the customer, ie user of DBT, should be able to make the necessary changes on the front end of the program rather than having to go really on a technician. Perhaps this is something that could be implemented at some stage. Peter You suggested that 13 inch paper could be included for the embossers that we currently have. Whilst this would be appreciated there is no guarantee that we will not purchase a different embosser in the future and the facility for the user to make the changes within the program, as was possible with 10.4, would be the best solution. We currently have the Theil mentioned above, several Index Basics, of various ages including a new one just ordered, and a Tiger pro. I have been told that our paper size is quirky! David Spybey * * * * This message is via list duxhelp at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxhelp-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * * * * * This message is via list duxhelp at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxhelp-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * * * * * This message is via list duxhelp at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxhelp-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *