Joanie, Not only does your suggestion make sense, but Mike has basically already implemented revised code to work that way. It most likely won't be in beta 2, but you can look for it in beta 3. - Peter -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joanmarie Diggs Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:30 PM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Beta 1 replace styles is brooken: Hi Peter. I agree with you. People might get confused/frustrated by the changing availability of the checkbox. I was thinking of something a bit different -- something I assumed would be easier for all parties, although I could be wrong.... So let me detail what I'm thinking: 1. Leave the dialog box controls as they are. Why change the appearance from 10.5 if it is not necessary to do so? Besides, the checkbox label is clear: People wanting to find/replace a style will check it. 2. Leave the functionality **mostly** as it is. In other words, there are 3 style-search related scenarios (I think), two of which are non-problematic: A. The user wants to search for a style, types the name of the style as text, and then checks the checkbox. In this case, Duxbury should do what it currently does. B. The user wants to search for a style, uses Control-Shift-comma to insert the style, and does not check the checkbox. In this case, Duxbury should also do what it currently does. C. The user wants to search for a style, uses Control-Shift-comma to do so, and DOES check the checkbox. In this case, Duxbury currently fails to find the style and looks for styles based on the old representation as reported by Don. Instead, what I think should occur is that Duxbury examines the search string and the checkbox and performs the search based on the correct text rather than the actual text. In other words, in the code that does the find/replace, either strip off the <> from the search string and then you're in scenario A or act as if the checkbox weren't checked and then you're in scenario B. I wouldn't change what actually appears in the dialog box because visibly correcting the user's input might also be a cause for confusion rather than edification. <grin> Am I making sense or missing the point? Take care. Joanie -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:49 PM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Beta 1 replace styles is brooken: Joanie (and Don), This will be simple enough to specify as follows: - Replace stylename shall be unchecked and disabled if any character not valid in a stylename occurs in the search or replace text. This means among other things that neither spaces nor codes (anything appearing in gray) may appear in the search/replace fields if the checkbox is to be enabled or checked. Would that help avoid the confusion? Part of me thinks that perhaps it wouldn't -- you'd only be frustrated that you couldn't check the box. - Peter -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joanmarie Diggs Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:22 PM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Beta 1 replace styles is brooken: Don, come out of that hole. <grin> Your point is still valid -- whether it's a "bug" or not. And I'm not just saying that because I want my suggestion implemented. <grin> If it confused us, surely it has and will confuse the average end-user. Take care. Joanie (who is well on her way to finishing off a pot of coffee) ________________________________ From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Breda Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:05 PM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Beta 1 replace styles is brooken: Joanmarie you got it. Ouch!!! I am gonna crawl in a hole. I guess I needed another cup of coffee this morning. I forgot and entered the stylename with the control-shift-coma instead of just typing it in. Oh well. Withdraw my bug report but for one thing, it shouldn't say es~para. in any case since styles are not represented that way anymore. Ok so I am trying to save face grin!!! Don On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:24:29 -0500, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: >Yeah, that is one of those interface things that confused me when I >first saw it in 10.5. If you use shift-control-, to insert the style >name, you don't check that checkbox. However, if you don't use >shift-control-, and simply enter the style name, you do check that >checkbox. The fact that the checkbox is redundant makes sense to me, >but its handling of manually-entered style names doesn't. So here's my >proposal, for whatever it's worth: > >Keep the interface the way it is. BUT: If that checkbox is checked, >take a look to see if a style was manually entered with shift-control-, >and if so, don't do any further conversion to the style before >executing the find/replace. > >Take care. >Joanie > >-----Original Message----- >From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Breda >Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:10 AM >To: dbt beta list >Subject: [duxhelp] Beta 1 replace styles is brooken: > >In working on a document I wanted to replace the <para.> style with nothing. > >I turned on coded view and hit (f6). >I hit shift-control-, and got the <> pair. > >I typed in para. and tabbed to replace stylenames and check the box. 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