"my choices seem to be learn to drive wi Kent up front wi me (which i think is ok, for a navigator at Prelim pairs, just not at advanced...(?))" Nancy, With pairs the navigator/groom must ride behind the driver. This is for all levels of pairs from Training through Advanced. Keith Yutzy Lone Star Dartmoors _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````