[ddots-l] Re: firewire vs usb

  • From: D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 23:56:39 -0400

Theoretically speaking no, because USB3 can run with faster speeds; however
the audio industry will probably not adopt or switch to USB3, as a matter of
fact, I've seen very little equipment that has come out in USB3 versions,
none of which are pro audio.
Another downfall of USB is that everything uses it, from keyboard to mouse
to peripherals, and because the hub has to share so many ports, the
bandwidth gets limitted on everything, including interfaces; firewire on the
other hand usually has 2 ports or 3 at most, and you're told to not use
anything that requires high bandwidth on the additional port when using your
interface/device. A USB keyboard isn't really a high-bandwidth device, but
when many small devices like that add up, dpc and interrupts  and such add
up, and that's probably why it is that way for USB.

HTH, D!J!X!

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Blake Hardin
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:12 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: firewire vs usb

does this still apply for usb 3.0 as well?

On 3/21/12, Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi as the article posted said, a lot of simularities but big 
> difference is speed. practically when it comes to sound USB audio 
> interfaces usually can't record more than 2 or 3 audio tracks at once 
> because of the bandwith however presonus now has a 8 pre amp USB 
> interface and they say you can record 8 channels at the same time with 
> some clevver technology they employed. On the other hand with 
> firewires much larger bandwith you can record a lot more tracks at the 
> same time, most firewire interfaces has 8 pre amps like the focusrite 
> pro40 and presonus studiofire. On these you can comfortably record 8 
> tracks at the same time but you can even dazy chane more than one of 
> these interfaces and record more than 8 tracks at once. I'm speaking 
> under correction but think presonus said they successfully tested 4 
> firestudios dazy chaned which gives you 32 tracks but they said more 
> might be possible. All of this can be done using 1 firewire port and 
> obviously a computer with a reasonable processor where if you try 
> record 32 channels via USB well it will just be imposible.
> USB 3 is faster than USB 2 but it has been around for a few years now 
> and only some of the higher end motherboards supports USB 3 and not 
> one of the audio or camera manufacturers adopted USB 3 on their 
> products so if you ask me it's not really going to take off on pro 
> devices. Then there's also Apples relativly new thunderbolt standard 
> with transfer rates of up to 10 GBps which is basically more than 10 
> times faster than firewire, if thunderbolt groes I think it will 
> eventually replace firewire but it's only now starting to come in and 
> external hard drives etc with thunderbolt technology is still quite 
> scares and expensive. As I said eventually thunderbolt will replace 
> firewire but I think it's safe to say in the audio world anyway that 
> firewire is here to stay and the interfacing format to use at least 
> for the next 5 or 10 years. Throughout the years the audio 
> manufacturers had the typical atatude of if it's not broken why fix 
> it, so they have been very slow to adopt new interface standards. As a 
> little example I think PCI express on motherboards came out before
> 2004 someware and only 2 or 3 years ago companies like avid and RME 
> also started making PCI express cards though they still make the same 
> cards in a PCI version as well for those not having PCI express 
> motherboards and it's the same with firewire and USB 2 and 3, 
> everybody's not suddenly going to jump on the USB 3 or thunderbolt 
> band wagon, they'll give it time and see how it pans out, basically 
> let the industry standard pick itself.
>
> On 3/21/12, Data <data@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> The key difference between FireWire and USB is that FireWire is 
>> intended for devices working with a lot more data -- things like 
>> camcorders, DVD players and digital audio equipment. FireWire and USB 
>> share a number of characteristics but differ in some important ways.
>> Read more: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/firewire3.htm
>>
>> Hope this helps. -Andy.
>>
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