[ddots-l] Re: firewire vs usb
- From: Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 14:46:15 +0200
Totally agree, people think well I have 6 or 8 USB 2 ports on my
motherboard but in reality all those ports share the same bus and the
same bandwith, some higher end motherboards have more than 1 USB 2 bus
and they work better but mostly they have only 1. Yes Apple are
pushing thunderbolt these days and I'm sure and as I previously said
it will eventually replace firewire but this won't happen anytime soon
and I don't see Apple dropping firewire from their machines anytime
soon, thunderbolt is just not mature enough yet.
On 3/23/12, D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Theoretically speaking no, because USB3 can run with faster speeds; however
> the audio industry will probably not adopt or switch to USB3, as a matter of
> fact, I've seen very little equipment that has come out in USB3 versions,
> none of which are pro audio.
> Another downfall of USB is that everything uses it, from keyboard to mouse
> to peripherals, and because the hub has to share so many ports, the
> bandwidth gets limitted on everything, including interfaces; firewire on the
> other hand usually has 2 ports or 3 at most, and you're told to not use
> anything that requires high bandwidth on the additional port when using your
> interface/device. A USB keyboard isn't really a high-bandwidth device, but
> when many small devices like that add up, dpc and interrupts and such add
> up, and that's probably why it is that way for USB.
>
> HTH, D!J!X!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Blake Hardin
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:12 PM
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> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: firewire vs usb
>
> does this still apply for usb 3.0 as well?
>
> On 3/21/12, Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi as the article posted said, a lot of simularities but big
>> difference is speed. practically when it comes to sound USB audio
>> interfaces usually can't record more than 2 or 3 audio tracks at once
>> because of the bandwith however presonus now has a 8 pre amp USB
>> interface and they say you can record 8 channels at the same time with
>> some clevver technology they employed. On the other hand with
>> firewires much larger bandwith you can record a lot more tracks at the
>> same time, most firewire interfaces has 8 pre amps like the focusrite
>> pro40 and presonus studiofire. On these you can comfortably record 8
>> tracks at the same time but you can even dazy chane more than one of
>> these interfaces and record more than 8 tracks at once. I'm speaking
>> under correction but think presonus said they successfully tested 4
>> firestudios dazy chaned which gives you 32 tracks but they said more
>> might be possible. All of this can be done using 1 firewire port and
>> obviously a computer with a reasonable processor where if you try
>> record 32 channels via USB well it will just be imposible.
>> USB 3 is faster than USB 2 but it has been around for a few years now
>> and only some of the higher end motherboards supports USB 3 and not
>> one of the audio or camera manufacturers adopted USB 3 on their
>> products so if you ask me it's not really going to take off on pro
>> devices. Then there's also Apples relativly new thunderbolt standard
>> with transfer rates of up to 10 GBps which is basically more than 10
>> times faster than firewire, if thunderbolt groes I think it will
>> eventually replace firewire but it's only now starting to come in and
>> external hard drives etc with thunderbolt technology is still quite
>> scares and expensive. As I said eventually thunderbolt will replace
>> firewire but I think it's safe to say in the audio world anyway that
>> firewire is here to stay and the interfacing format to use at least
>> for the next 5 or 10 years. Throughout the years the audio
>> manufacturers had the typical atatude of if it's not broken why fix
>> it, so they have been very slow to adopt new interface standards. As a
>> little example I think PCI express on motherboards came out before
>> 2004 someware and only 2 or 3 years ago companies like avid and RME
>> also started making PCI express cards though they still make the same
>> cards in a PCI version as well for those not having PCI express
>> motherboards and it's the same with firewire and USB 2 and 3,
>> everybody's not suddenly going to jump on the USB 3 or thunderbolt
>> band wagon, they'll give it time and see how it pans out, basically
>> let the industry standard pick itself.
>>
>> On 3/21/12, Data <data@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> The key difference between FireWire and USB is that FireWire is
>>> intended for devices working with a lot more data -- things like
>>> camcorders, DVD players and digital audio equipment. FireWire and USB
>>> share a number of characteristics but differ in some important ways.
>>> Read more: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/firewire3.htm
>>>
>>> Hope this helps. -Andy.
>>>
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