[ddots-l] Re: Wanna pick your brains

  • From: Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:44:33 -0400

don't forget to slightly adjust the pitch of the duplicates sometimes, or at least try that.


At 11:59 PM 9/17/2013, you wrote:
I record 2 takes and pan one hard right and the other hard left. When I'm lazy I use channel tools and keep my vocal trac stario or I put the same recording in to different tracks and offset them to get the corrusing affect. I may still add some Corus affect on top of that for a more lush sound depending on what I'm after.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:46 PM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Wanna pick your brains

Hi, copy a track of vocals, pan 1 left, the new track to the right, and offset them by a few milliseconds. The greater the offset, the more spaced out you get, till it sounds like 2 tracks, so you don't want to go crazy with it. That's 1 way. Sometimes these tracks are actually recorded twice or thrice to get that fat sound, because each performance is always slightly different, and slightly modified in terms of time.

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From: <mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Tyo
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:37 PM
To: ddots-l
Subject: [ddots-l] Wanna pick your brains
Hi List,

I'd like to get some feedback on what people are doing when it comes to creating chorused vocals; more specifically - using a good multi-voice chorus effect vs manually overdubbing vocal parts. I'm not necessarily looking for absolution on this as I realize that it's going to boil down to personal preference.

Obviously it takes far less time to simply patch a chorus effect into a bus and send your vocal tracks to it. Here's the thing; though I don't mind using chorus effects, I find that to me, they sound a bit sterile. This is not to put them down by any means; it's just that when I hear production from the big boys out there, Vocals don't sound like they've been put through your typical chorusing effect. It's more like they've taken the time to overdub vocals, or they're using one hell of a good processor that does a great job of simulating multiple voices on a part.

I've been spending a lot of time going through the chorus plugs in Sonar tweaking them to see if I can come up with something that I like, but I'm still looking. Sure - I could use the VVocal plug to create multiple tracks of unison vocals that are detuned from one another to simulate overdubbing, but because of the limitations on how much data that we can process in the VVocal Editor at a time, I might as well manually record the tracks as it would take less time overall.

I understand that there are some hardware units that do some pretty good simulations, but there's that accessibility issue again - not to mention the cost of some of these devices. Again, I'm not looking for absolutes here - just feedback on what people are doing. Is that old fashion way still winning out over the chorus effects and hardware processors? Perhaps there's stuff out there that I'm not aware of, hence my inquiry here. What do ya think?

Cheers!



Mike

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