Hi:
Would you Please recommend a specific brand and model for that power
conditioner?
Thanks
Jeff
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Behalf Of Blake Hardin
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:33 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Power distribution on a budget
When I started my studeo I always had and still have terible grounding issues.
We even changed out our fuse box thinkint that might help because we had a very
old one. Anyway, nothing helped until I got a power conditioner. Now I have
clean power running to everything and no noise at all. I will say that you need
to buy a power conditioner first thing. I paid around 200 for mine and it has 8
inputs. This will give you clean power to everything and save you the headache
of dealing with the power company and things like that. You could try that rout
but you may try for weeks and not have any luck changing a thing. I can't tell
you a power conditioner is what you need to many times. It was the best $200 I
have ever spent and I could kick myself for not getting one years ago. So go
out and buy one right now. Should I say it again? Now! Now! Right now. Hahaha
ok I am done
On 5/31/17, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Contact whoever manufactured the unit to discuss ground screws not
connected or simply loose. They would be able to make suggestions of what to
do.
Grounding for a building depends on the terrain and what type of ground
required for that terrain. Dry sandy terrain would probably require a
chemically treated area where one or more metal rods are implanted.
In this situation tapping onto a metal pipe might create a ground loop
that could be dangerously harmful to both electrical equipment and people.
The point is do a little research with the equip manufacturer but
first call the electric power company for grounding conditions in
your specific location. Grounding conditions can change across a
neighborhood. So be ware.
Don't reinvent the wheel. Make a few phone calls to find out where
you stand. After getting an understanding of where you stand with the
power company and equipment manufacturer, better decisions can be
made. And after calls are made and you have access to a maintenance
man or electrician talk to them before trying to reinvent the wheel or
spending money.
The simple advice would be not to tackle ground loops without
understanding your specific situation. Experts are available at low or no
cost.
Be safe!
Hope this helps.
Andre, electrical engineer
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[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of floyd white
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:28 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Power distribution on a budget
Oh,
I wasn't suggesting hacking anything or re-inventing ground. Only
simple thoughts like a wire at an unconnected ground screw on a power
conditioner for example. Sorry for any confusion...
On 5/31/17, DJX <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Make sure you eliminate the sound, but please please please! *NEVER*PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE!
get rid of ground, or use something as ground that shouldn't be. That
could damage your equipment before you even turn it on or cause other
problems like EMI.
Becareful with ground lifting, which just gets rid of the ground. If
you know what you're doing, or are working with somebody who does,
you should be able to get great results without resorting to crazy
hacks that can only damage equipment or kill you!
But it all does start with a good, well thought out wiring scheme.
Also, consider all the equipment you have in the chain, and I mean
all of it, from the smallest to the greatest.
Regards, DJX
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of floyd white
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:47 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Power distribution on a budget
Yup,
Well, on a budget is going to be tough.
When I first built my studio up, 60 cycle drove me nuts.
My advice is experiment.
For example,
* try to avoid running audio cables along side ac power in parallel.
* Stay balance audio everywhere if you can afford it.
* Experiment with ground wires from power conditioners or outlet
strips to real ground like water pipes etc. You'll need to do this
with headphones on and with nothing except white noise in them.
This approach ought to keep you busy for like weeks.
It's all about eliminating ground loops.
And after all that, you might be lucky enough to reduce your noise
maby 20 to 30 percent.
Unless you are willing to dig in with a bunch of money and as DJX
said an expert, you may have to work around noise as well as
incorporate a good noise reduction plug-in to help.
There are a number of good ones like Cedar, Isotope etc.
On 5/30/17, DJX <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Bettef than wasting time reading books that will mainly focus onPLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE!
what you already stated you can't change, the building's electrical,
you would be better off consulting with someone who is experienced
in studio set up, and can help you work on your particular setup. V
Regards, DJX
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behalf of Fran franks <fm.guitarlady@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:55:26 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Power distribution on a budget
Hello all,
Can any of you recommend good publications I can read on the subject
of power distribution in the recording studio?
I'm not formally trained as an engineer and often find myself
perplexed and frustrated in my efforts to eliminate stray fields
that cause the dreaded 60Hz hum. Unfortunately though, I am not in
the position to change the building architecture, including
redesigning the house electrical system.
So, I'm hoping there is an affordable way to isolate the room I have
set up as a studio.
Warm regards,
Fran Franks
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