[ddots-l] Re: How Do I Mute Tracks While Recording?

  • From: Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 09 May 2017 01:05:34 -0400

why ask why?

At 12:08 AM 5/9/2017, you wrote:

What's up with that, I wonder?


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O OK. I was wondering how you might have gotten the new one to work, at least the older one was somewhat usable.



Unfortunately each company owns the source to their code, and not many are willing to change or alter their interfaces to make things work with screen readers.

Many of these library producers get what's called UI frameworks form companies that specialize in making these, so the amount of coding time for the UI is greatly reduced. For that and other reasons, they really don't go out of their way to alter the UI frameworks to play nice with access technologies.



HTH, DJX



From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 10:35 PM
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The Play Engine version. However, I can't get to the Wordbuilder Interface and its parameters without sighted help. Isn't there someone who has the source code to make all the instrument interfaces accessible to JAWS? For example, in addition to the graphics, there can be some text-based icons out there?



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This is normal, when sonar is not in focus, it stops the engine if not in playback; try it on recording, but I think it will still record even if it's no longer in focus.



Not sure I understand what you mean about jaws and input echo. Unless you have a good reason, you should keep input echo off on all tracks, since you know what you are going to be doing/recording. It's not like you have to add a realtime effect to your voice, or do you?



Also, out of interest, are you doing a tutorial on the play engine word builder, or the older kontakt based one? I was under the impression the new play word builder is built-in to the engine (no pun intended), but since you are talking about alt tabbing away to type in the word builder, I'm curious as to which you are using.



Regards, DJX



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Also, I've noticed something interesting. When I tab away from the Sonar screen while I'm playing back something, the sound that I'm playing turns off while JAWS is announcing which screen I'm on, but then turns back on when I tab back to Sonar. Does this same thing happen while recording? Is it like a pause button? Also, to clarify things. When I record my voiceover and Instrument tracks, JAWS is heard in the Input Monitor Echo. That's what I want to turn off while I'm typing in "Wordbuilder" of Eastwest Quantum Leap Symphonic Choirs.



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OK, then don't record jaws, just arm the voiceover audio track and the midi track for the synth. But if you are doing an audio tutorial for blind individuals, not hearing screen reader feedback, unless you plan to speak all the dialogs or responses yourself, would be a bit interesting. Kind of like watching a video tutorial where the instructor says click here, but no one can see where he/she is clicking because there's no video! ;)



HTH, DJX



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I don't actually want to have JAWS in my recording, just the softsynth and my voiceovers.



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Hi, just record your entire tutorial to separate tracks, say one for you voice, one for jaws, and the other for soft synth (just the midi track, not the soft synth audio).

Then, once you've recorded jaws and your voice and the midi parts, you can go in to those areas where you are not talking but playing, and you can mute your voice track using automation. As Chris suggested, read about it in the ct manual if you haven't used automation before.



HTH, DJX



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I actually do record everything to separate tracks, recording each one one at a time. The muting is where I have the problem, because it seems that when I try to do it with Manual Mute when recording, I can still hear what's going on in the voiceover track, when that's the one I want to be muted while I'm playing the keys in the instrument track. This way I don't hear the mechanical sound of the keys being played, only the sound of the instrument.



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It's easier to just record everything and make those edits later, as long as you are recording to separate tracks. Then you can use automation to mute and unmute tracks.



HTH, DJX





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Hi, it's Annabelle.

I'm planning on making a tutorial for a virtual instrument, and I want to find out, how can I mute my voiceover track before playing the keys on my keyboard to demonstrate the instrument? More importantly, how would I mute the track while recording within Sonar 8.5 Producer Edition? I also want JAWS to automatically mute when the voiceover track is muted. Note that I have JAWS running on the Soundmax Digital Audio soundcard built in to my computer, while my voiceover track and the instrument track are running through the MOTU 896HD Audio Interface.



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