I've been discussing this with David Pilling for a while and it seems sensible to widen our discussion to the list. I work in the field of monumental brasses and for about fifteen years have been producing a series of (very boring) reference books and also typesetting several publications in the field. The vast majority of the illustrations are of brass rubbings with a small amount of greyscale photographs etc. In the early days everything was produced camera-ready, but for the last six or seven years it's been done with PDFs which go straight to an imagesetter. Everything until recently has involved black and white printing and has been relatively straightforward. The work is originated in RO OvPro and is now exported to Windows OvPro and printed via Acrobat Distiller. As memory and disc space used to be expensive, I have always used 1 bpp sprites which have worked pretty well. However sprites like these seem to be poor relations in the graphics world - load them into most of the graphics package and they get turned into 24 bpp, so I do much of my editing in !Paint. My current typesetting project includes colour photographs and the printing company has become quite demanding. They require individual page PDFs which must be produced from Distiller using their special job options and everything must be in the CMYK colour space. The text has been sorted out fairly easily with David's help. His advice was to enable the direct PostScript option, define all colours in CMYK space and print to a PS printer driver (so Distiller is OK). So, having edited the ten documents making up the publication and produced 100-odd new PDFs, it then transpired the images weren't up to scratch, as these were still in the RGB colour space. The colour JPEGs are apparently OK; they will go through to the imagesetter and be converted to CMYK. The mono and greyscale images are the problem. They will also convert to CMYK but will end up on all four plates, not just on the black plate. So the images need to be converted to CMYK. ATM the simplest way that I have found to edit them is to load them into !Artworks and export them as CMYK bitmaps. These have all the black solely on the Black plate and the resulting output seems to be what the printer wants. I'd be grateful if anyone has any suggestions to simplify this process. -- William Lack --------------------- william.lack@bt internet.com County Series: http://home.clara.net/williamlack/index.htm To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: //www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling