... on the whole, my sense is that you might be on to something, but probably are not quite correct. That is, professors probably DO pay more attention to the pitfalls of beliefs arising within the scope of their intellectual areas compared to people of other occupations, but they might simply make too many errors (on occasion) in the pitfall inspection. If this happens, one would expect your cynicism. Of course, the whole premise makes for an unfair fight: people of other occupations, by definition, are being compared based upon their non-occupational beliefs. (Imagine a divorce lawyer participating in a discussion about something implicating philosophy of law). l've stressed in these mails that it is work and career that makes professors (potentially) different. At times, however, I confess to share your viewpoint. At times I feel the American academy can even be empty at its core. But think for a moment what the implications of this really are. If it is true, it may also be evidence of the failing of culture. Ask yourself this: what is the relationship between the bar-stool logic one finds on the A..M. talk radio, the degeneration of American media, and the problems that you say exist among about professors/PhDs? And could not the same set of problems, if they exist, not also be said of clergy, or journalists or judges in the age we live? And would not the same thing be said of the very critics who voice this complaint in many instances? (Think of the students who say their professors are biased while themselves being completely facile and wanting, really, only a counter-bias). And isn't all of this suggesting that we are living in a post-modern intellectual era where, among immense social change, there is also great intellectual disorientation? If any of this is indeed true, I wonder what relationship it has to the failure of American education to provide enough philosophy and history? One thing about the fog seems clear. There is a definite purpose for A.M. talk-radio: no admission requirements. They might as well call it the American jungle. It seems to me there was SUPPOSED to be a purpose for the academy. And if it is failing in the respect you suggest, you might as well forget about moderating anyone or anything, short merely of making the powerful feel good and having hegemony. Here's what I want to say: if the days are gone where professors are different in how they approach something, the days are gone for worrying about anything other than how we feel. (I think it is the political scientists who fail to see the implications of this problem the most). Regards and thanks. Dr. Sean Wilson, Esq. Assistant Professor Wright State University Personal Website: http://seanwilson.org (Subscribe: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/sworg-subscribe/ ) SSRN papers: http://ssrn.com/author=596860 New Discussion Groups! http://ludwig.squarespace.com/discussionfora/ ----- Original Message ---- From: Frank Cross <crossf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Sean Wilson <whoooo26505@xxxxxxxxx>; CONLAWPROF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: cv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 8:10:12 PM Subject: Re: On the Value of Professor to Law I confess to a little more cynicism about professors/PhDs. Not that they don't offer expertise and knowledge. But in my experience they are not particularly attentive to the pitfalls of whatever belief systems they adopt. Especially when freighted ideological matters are at stake. At 05:42 PM 9/24/2010, Sean Wilson wrote: >Hi Sandy. > >I begin my con law course with the Glorious Revolution. (But it's >actually con >development). Let me offer these thoughts about the relevance of >being a lawyer >versus an academic for discussions about "constitutional law." > >Academics are more likely to be free of what I call a "bent >perspective." What I > >mean by this is NOT that academics don't have goofy beliefs (for surely some >do). But rather that they will have been attentive to the pitfalls >of whatever >belief systems they adopt. And if they haven't been sufficiently >attentive, it >is usually owed to neglect rather than poor character -- meaning >they'll go back > >to deal with it when shown. In fact, good academics will be >embarrassed to find >that a pitfall in his or her beliefs is overlooked. You don't get the same >behavior (as a general rule) among people who do not take on as a life career >the pursuit of truth and meaning. > >As such, you shouldn't find among professors the sort of behaviors in >opinion-making that you do on the A.M. radio. The way the mind maneuvers is >different. It isn't debate; it's discussion. It isn't a sword or a >contest; it's > >like a food or a wine. You come to appreciate the working of minds and the >integrity of thought. > >All professors have this in them to some degree, merely because of what their >work consists of. We're so insulated from the world. It's like >living life in a >bottle. Your job, 24/7, is to make sense of things (one way or >another). It is >because of this that a discussion group devoted to topic X might want to >favorably indulge those whose life's work involves thinking properly >of things >concerning X. > > >(P.S. Sent to Law and Meta Perspective) > >Regards and thanks. > >Dr. Sean Wilson, Esq. >Assistant Professor >Wright State University >Personal Website: http://seanwilson.org > (Subscribe: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/sworg-subscribe/ ) >SSRN papers: http://ssrn.com/author=596860 >New Discussion Groups! http://ludwig.squarespace.com/discussionfora/ >