[cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers?

  • From: lucas power <power.lucas@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 12:20:31 -0400

Much earlier in this thread someone, I believe JY, noted that 'user logs
pay for the internet'. I think I understand this conceptually, but does
anyone have ideas on where to learn about the actual nature of the
transactions? I'm interested in what exactly gets collected (assume it's
everything, all the time), how it is monetized, and who the various sellers
and buyers are; how do these various entities represent themselves to each
other, to their end users, etc.

On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Michael Shelton <iao.ms88@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Very much so!And very well
stated,it is so refreshing to read or hear our language used with
And in that spirit I remain, Iao
On 10 Oct 2015 09:44, "Shelley" <shelley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On October 10, 2015 12:30:08 PM Razer <Rayzer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 10/10/2015 11:51 AM, Shelley wrote:

The Cryptome archives *are* publicly accessible.

Imho It's NOT his (Best's) material to decide to post without permission
of the creator. Publicly available or not, at Archive.org.

You don't take the permission to upload the same information JY allowed
to be uploaded to public torrents as implied permission to post the *same*
files on archive.org?

Also, before Best posted anything at all, he contacted John. Twice. JY
could have expressed his disapproval at that time. We know about it
because Best posted it to the list: how many other mirrors are there? Will
you find them, check them all for the log files in question and chastise
those posters as well?

Cryptome has never endorsed the authenticity of any specific mirrors, but
has never discouraged the mirroring of the archives (at least not to my
knowledge, and I've been around for a while.)

As I've stated, I'm fairly certain my info is in the dataset and it's on
me for not employing better personal browsing security. I'm not angry with
any of the parties involved; sunlight is the best disinfectant, and this
discussion can become a positive thing if serves to remind us that despite
best intentions, someone, somewhere, is always watching and it is up to us
to protect ourselves.


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