[cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers?

  • From: Shelley <shelley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Dr. J Feinstein" <drjfeinstein@xxxxxxxx>, <cypherpunks@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:02:55 -0700

On October 11, 2015 10:14:15 AM "Dr. J Feinstein" <drjfeinstein@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

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Calling bullshit. Mirimirs right, this makes no sense. And JYA says netsol won't let him delete the logs but Netsol says logs are disabled by default[https://www.networksolutions.com/support/how-to-enable-download-the-web-logs/] and you have to turn them on.

So how the fuckd this really happen?

I truly don't know. I don't have any more info than anyone else, I was just musing about how it could have happened. Obviously, hearing JY's explanation would be the best thing.

Also agree re: the /var/log issue, but I get the impression that the restored files weren't kept in the normal file tree structure. Again, I simply don't know and I'm not trying to be an overt JY apologist - I'm just saying sometimes, shit happens. It would help if he would weigh in instead of having dorks like me positing hypotheticals.


Mirimir <mirimir@xxxxxxxxxx>
Are you arguing that users could have found those logs?

I almost can't imagine that. Logs are normally in /var/log/ somewhere,
and I can't imagine making them searchable. And indeed, I can't imagine
how Cryptome archives would have included anything from /var/log/, even
after system restore from backups.


> Should access logs be kept for that long? Absolutely not. From what I> have read in the email exchange that was posted, the log files were> included in a NetSol total restore. My guess is that John/Cryptome did> not intentionally keep these files, and did not realize these files were> included in the archive.
But that's the thing. Logs should have been in /var/log/. And how would
the "NetSol total restore" have changed that?

> When I do incremental backups or updates on my own systems, I don't> usually go back and check the integrity of files I've already archived> in my closed system. I can see where this could be an honest mistake> that has gotten blown way out of proportion. It's a good lesson to be> more aware of these types of glitches.
I still don't get how logs would have ended up in archives. Maybe JYA
prepared a special set of archives for a collaborator. Maybe for someone
helping him to understand what had happened. And then maybe he forgot
about doing that. Hard to say.

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