and as for"god" he/she/it, is but the personification of the combined forces of nature, or at least those forces for which mankind cannot, at this time find a suitable rational explanation. theory or hypothesis for their existence. Just a thought to add to a thought. ATB Shaun. On 19/12/2014 20:50, doug wrote: > A view with which I tend to concur. Nietzsche also said that "God is > Dead", a view with which I tend not to concur...if only because, for > me, for God to die, he had to exist in the first place...and of such a > fact, I am yet to be convinced... > > What does it do for wue wei and the religion which lies at the back of > it...Is the universe harmonious for instance...or is it in a state of > chaos and/or equilibrium at the same time, like shrodinger's cat... > > If life is in constant change, then where does that leave > immortality? After all, isn't immortality a state where nuffink > changes... > Just a thought... > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth > > > > "(...) Some scholars regard Nietzsche's 1873 unpublished essay, "On > Truth and Lies in a Nonmoral Sense" ("Über Wahrheit und Lüge im > außermoralischen Sinn") as a keystone in his thought. In this essay, > Nietzsche rejects the idea of universal constants, and claims that > what we call "truth" is only "a mobile army of metaphors, metonyms, > and anthropomorphisms." His view at this time is that arbitrariness > completely prevails within human experience: concepts originate via > the very artistic transference of nerve stimuli into images; "truth" > is nothing more than the invention of fixed conventions for merely > practical purposes, especially those of repose, security and > consistence. (...)"^[71 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth#cite_note-71> > ] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth#cite_note-71> ATB > Dougie.^<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth#cite_note-71> > > P.S. I notice that a lot of these sites are American...and offer to > sell one books, written by one "guru" or another, offering marriage > guidance counselling and family counselling. Others offer one > electronic devices to remove the emf, or electro-motive force in ones > home, as this force is considered as somehow bad for human life or > existence. The gadget is itself worked by emf, but be that as it > may. For me, the ideal situation would be to find a religion which > does not cost any money. Nuffink wrong with that of course, one has > to make a living...but make a living out of one's religion? I have a > Buddha statue, which is up in my loft at the moment, where I made the > supreme sacrifice of denying my principles and I purchased it a number > of years ago for the huge sum of £20. He used to sit in my > conservatory on the Isle of Wight. I thought he was rather cute, with > his pot belly and nice, chubby face, his body clad in ancient > accutriments and fashionable jewellery of the times; and he helped me > no end, in my contemplation and musings of world affairs, the > universe, myself and things of such ilk....though, I did manage to do > such things just as well, before he arrived. And, more importantly, > I get consolation from the fact, that even 3000 years ago, people > suffered from obesity, especially monks and such like. When our > conservatory is finally completed, he will take up pride of place once > again next to the open door. Nuffink better than a bit of feng > shui...:-) . Just goes to show, that we must be adaptable and > flexible, at least in our thinking along with our physical compromises > of principle, if, as a species, we are to survive... > Just a thought... > -- *_PRIVACY IS A BASIC RIGHT - NOT A CONCESSION _* https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/11/when-time-comes-we-need-be-ready-fight-tpps-secret-anti-user-agenda