[cryptome] Re: Guns and Hand Drills as Part of Authorised Torture

  • From: Shaun O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:45:46 +0000

I didn't see those picture but I did see pictures of computer bits that
where "of interest" I think it was in an acticle from privacy international.

I wonder if the shattered  hard drives where shoved into burn bags for
more thorough treatment elsewhere?
On 11/12/2014 21:12, doug wrote:
> Hi Shaun,
> Did you see the photos of the Gaurdian reporters destroying their hard
> disks?   This was done on the advice of GCHQ and the I.T. manager at
> the Gaurdian.   They used drills and broke up the hard disks on their
> computers, which contained the "secret" information from Snowden. 
> GCHQ found this method very acceptable, as did the law courts, which
> are there to protect our human rights; apparently so did the
> Guardian.  Talk about propaganda...the people on this list know that
> you can't destroy information on a hard disk, by breaking it up into
> little bits... You have to melt it.
> But there you are, where would we be without myths and legends in our
> society.
> Dougie.
> On 11/12/14 21:03, Shaun O'Connor wrote:
>> indeed a tunnelling electron microscope is very useful in forensic 
>> data analysts. the only true way of totally and utterly destroying
>> any electronic trails would be to completely pulverize every hard
>> disk that the emails might possibly have landed on and that's
>> probably a lot of hard disks!!!.
>> On 11/12/2014 20:42, doug wrote:
>>> Apparently, part of the "enhanced interrogation techniques...i.e.
>>> Torture" was the use of guns to the head and hand drills...And those
>>> methods of interrogation were ignored.  It gets more like Hollywood
>>> fantasies the more i get into it.   The guy who was being tortured
>>> had already given information and agreed to give more...none of it
>>> was an "immediate threat".  They, the CIA officers who were the
>>> interrogators, and who hadn't received training but had been
>>> specially selected...their personal records showed abuse, anger
>>> management problems and even records of sexual abuse, hadn't
>>> received proper training.  Some of the other CIA officers, started
>>> to feel sick and tried to report what was going on to the higher
>>> ups. They were told to continue...
>>> Pretty damning really...still, it is probably all lies...made up by
>>> the Democrats.  Lots of this stuff is gleaned from internal emails
>>> in the CIA.  Funny thing about emails and storing them...they are
>>> very difficult to get rid of apparently.  Deleting them isn't an
>>> option, because forensic software can still detect them, and then
>>> the person who deleted them can get into deeper shit.  Perhaps it is
>>> a good idea after all, to record and store everything and awthing on
>>> the internet.
>>> ATB
>>> Dougie.
>> -- 
>> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/11/when-time-comes-we-need-be-ready-fight-tpps-secret-anti-user-agenda


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