Re: USF4 changes!

  • From: Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:09:09 +0200

Wouldn't the first player who chooses a variation have a disadvantage?


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> They'll allow it. If the whole point of this 'character variation' is to
> assist in nullifying bad matchups, then it will probably be accepted.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Wonder how character variation will work in terms of tournaments though.
>> I know SBO tournaments is character locked. Eg. Tekken, you choose one
>> character and stick with it until the end. Be i've seen some tournaments
>> where you can just change...which is a bit :/ for tekken. Other fighting
>> games i'm not sure how fair that can be.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Not sure if they will. I heard from interviews that some normals just
>>> change completely :/
>>>
>>> We'll see then.
>>>
>>> But i like how they're finally thinking of balancing the game for really
>>> bad match up gameplay at least with character variation. What's the
>>> outcome, we'll have to just see. No more Kabal instant air fireball zoning
>>> vs characters who have no answers but take chip damage to death.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Yeah, if they're just altering a few moves, that's fine. If they
>>>> completely changing the character's frames, we're screwed.
>>>>  *From*: Manase Zote [mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx]
>>>> *Sent*: Thursday, June 12, 2014 02:43 PM South Africa Standard Time
>>>> *To*: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> *Subject*: Re: USF4 changes!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This method of balancing looks like a throw of dice to me.
>>>> It can go either way, you potentially have a scenario where you can
>>>> lose a match based on lack of character knowledge rather than skill.
>>>> If the game has like 30 characters for an example multiply that by 3
>>>> so on average you need to be aware of what all 90 variations are
>>>> capable of?
>>>> Let's wait and see what the move list looks like and how many moves
>>>> will change between 3 variations of a character.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> > 11.59? XD
>>>> >
>>>> > Hopefully the character variation will be some answer to really bad
>>>> match
>>>> > up. Not sure how they'll balance it tho. It'll be weird to just be a
>>>> total
>>>> > counter to another characters variation completely. If that's the
>>>> case,
>>>> > it'll be more rock paper scissors situation than a fighting game lolz
>>>> > hopefully the variations will make match ups like 9-1 to 6-4 or what
>>>> not. So
>>>> > there'll still be unfavourable match ups but not a complete lose like
>>>> > MK9...eg. Kabal vs Sheeva...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I think 12:00 is a safer option Rich :)
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:24 PM, <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Is 11:30 fine also?? I wanna get game time as much as I can
>>>> >>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>>>> >>> ________________________________
>>>> >>> From: Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>> Sender: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:15:48 +0200
>>>> >>> To: <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>> ReplyTo: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Heya peeps, we'll be starting the Sat sessions at 12pm to maximise
>>>> game
>>>> >>> time.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Anyone who is keen on starting a little earlier can join us at that
>>>> time.
>>>> >>> If you aren't able to make 12pm, that's fine as well.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Ashraf Barendse
>>>> >>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I think she feeling a bit lazy today. She was like "Can I speak to
>>>> the
>>>> >>>> main owner of the computer" and I was like "he's at work" and she
>>>> was like
>>>> >>>> "k thanx bye"
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>>>> >>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I love those.
>>>> >>>>> Start talking linux, usually goes well.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> "move to your start bar"
>>>> >>>>> "don't have one"
>>>> >>>>> "what version of Windows are you using"
>>>> >>>>> "I'm not using Windows"
>>>> >>>>> "Open up Internet Explorer"
>>>> >>>>> "don't have that either"
>>>> >>>>> "open your web browser"
>>>> >>>>> "mkay"
>>>> >>>>> "install this app"
>>>> >>>>> "using my regular tar.z loader or the synaptic package manage?"
>>>> >>>>> "huh?"
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> good times.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ashraf Barendse
>>>> >>>>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> lol, got a call from an Indian sounding lady calling from
>>>> "Windows
>>>> >>>>>> Technical Department"
>>>> >>>>>> How about no.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Ryan Williams <
>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> "Can I just buy a complete game please?"
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Not going to happen in this day and age. Those days are over.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>>>> >>>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> LOL
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't know which I hate more about fighting games.  The
>>>> update
>>>> >>>>>>>> approach like Street Fighter, or the supposedly new game like
>>>> Blazblue and
>>>> >>>>>>>> Persona.
>>>> >>>>>>>> It makes me not want to buy the games anymore, because there
>>>> will be
>>>> >>>>>>>> an Update later.
>>>> >>>>>>>> Can I just buy a complete game please?
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Do I need to buy another Persona now?
>>>> >>>>>>>> Do I need to buy another Blazblue now?
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm just ranting because I see there's a new character coming
>>>> out
>>>> >>>>>>>> for P4A
>>>> >>>>>>>> ...and I was planning to get the new Blazblue (english
>>>> version)...
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> In all honesty, the Capcom approach makes more sense to me, as
>>>> much
>>>> >>>>>>>> as I dislike it.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Wynand-Ben
>>>> >>>>>>>> <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> A new dark age starting off with a new Guilty Gear I can
>>>> definitely
>>>> >>>>>>>>> live with :D
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:59:23 +0200
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > I'm all for the next FG dark age.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Wreal wrap.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > On 12/06/2014, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > Mortal Kombat Honest Trailer:
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCiVYKmCveY
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >
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