Luckily for you, abels normal tornado throws are all unthrowbable. All of them plus the ex are also 5 frames, whearas only makoto's EX is 5 frames, but it has armour, but it's throwable. Though she can still do a meaty normal. But abels' EX throw has invinciblity and will go through strikes but can be thrown. http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_IV_AE/Abel ========================================================================= You are subscribed to the Cape Town Fighting Game Community mailing list. //www.freelists.org/list/cpt-fgc