[CPT-FGC] Re: New Mailing List
- From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 12:56:14 +0200
f.mk xx dash is +4f on block. It's a really, really good move. Every
normal you press afterwards becomes a true frame trap. And if you follow
up with cr.lk? Another 50/50 mixup.
QCF P is good when cancelled into FADC on the first hit because it combos
into st.hp for huge damage, but again, you can reset into tornado throw or
go into cr.lk shenanigans. EX QCF P is great for beating normals at close
range and getting in because of the armour. You have to be comfortable
with FADC'ing first though.
This is how to beat 90% of people who don't know how to fight Abel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7ZloKNgOho
Jump to 3m56s. After cr.hp (second hit), do a LK roll, then do a normal
and cancel into roll again and then repeat. Depending on which buttons you
use for the reset and roll, you can control which side you land on and get
a meaty cr.hp and do it again. This will stun in about 3 or 4 loops and
you can repeat for a perfect unless they guess right.
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Whoa, thanks. That’s a pretty good breakdown of how I should be playing
> him. I’ll try that out that stuff against Paas later.****
>
> If I do f+mk on block into dash, am I not at a frame disadvantage?****
>
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> Also does the qcf+p string not come into play in his general mix-up game?*
> ***
>
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> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
> *Sent:* 13 August 2013 12:38 PM
>
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [CPT-FGC] Re: New Mailing List****
>
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> Abel is one of the cheapest characters in the game. There aren't many
> moves that beat st.lk cleanly, and if they block that it gives you a
> chance to land f.mk xx dash which sets them up for a really dirty mixup.
> If they block your options are throw, tornado throw, st.hp into combo,
> cr.hp into Ultra 1. Every time you land a cr.lk (on hit or block) it's a
> 50/50 mixup. You can do LP tornado throw after the first or second one
> (mix it up to stop them from jumping), or you can go into your st.lk,
> f.mkdash pressure. After landing a tornado throw, you can dash and then do LK
> roll to land in front or MK roll to land at the back. Really hard to see,
> and you can delay it slightly to make it even more ambiguous. After the
> roll you can do cr.hp (it's meaty) or Tornado Throw and do the loop again.
> If you do cr.hp and they block, there's enough time to cancel into overhead
> rainbow kick or roll away. Very cheap stuff.****
>
> For Anti Airing just stick with cr.hp because you can combo even off
> trades (dash in and do LP Falling Sky), and when it doesn't trade it's a
> free Ultra combo. If it trades late, you can dash in for a mixup as they
> recover (either Tornado Throw, cr.lk into mixup, or rainbow kick for an
> overhead). From further away, cr.mk is a good anti- air. If they're in
> your facing neutral jumping. st.hp will beat pretty much everything. Abel
> is also one of two characters that is not at frame disadvantage after a
> Level 1 focus attack. So you can spam that and on block you get a another
> mixup.****
>
> His main weakness is regular throws because his crouch tech is relatively
> slow, and only regular Tornado Throw is invulnerable to throws, but that is
> also vulnerable to low attacks. Makoto can basically spam Low Axe kicks
> against him up close, and he'll have to guess with a focus attack or roll
> away and hope she doesn't grab him.****
>
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> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:****
>
> Big problem with Abel is that his roll is really useful if you know the
> spacing in the game. I don’t. Usually just roll and then eat something from
> Makoto. Once in a while get it right to roll past her hits and tornado
> throw her from behind. Feels good when that happens. It’s not all that
> often though.****
>
> Also kept trying to use his airgrab as an anti-air. It seems to have zero
> priority. Switched up to d+HP, but still landed up trading quite often.***
> *
>
> ****
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Manase Zote
> *Sent:* 13 August 2013 12:11 PM****
>
>
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [CPT-FGC] Re: New Mailing List****
>
> ****
>
> Welcome to footsies 101. lol
> It's all about spacing, ranges, priority and active frames for certain
> special moves/normal. Hit boxes and hurt boxes.****
>
> On 13 Aug 2013 11:58, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:****
>
> Yeah, lk and mk are all good.
> Problem is when I get beaten out by something, I have no idea if it was
> because her normals were better than Abels, or because I just didn't know
> what I was doing...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Stephen Scheidel
> Sent: 13 August 2013 11:56 AM
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: New Mailing List
>
> afaik Abel has good normals too
>
> On 13/08/2013, Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Yeah, screw Makoto's normals.
> > Messing around with Abel. All good. More than half of my wins were from
> > Ultras...
> >
> > From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > Behalf Of Wynand-Ben Viljoen
> > Sent: 13 August 2013 11:36 AM
> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: New Mailing List
> >
> > Played a bunch Street Fighter vs Stu yesterday...
> >
> > Was interesting lol
> >
> > Not sure if what we doing is going to help :P
> > Im fairly sure we are teaching each other pretty bad habits... doing
> shit
> > that will probably not work on non-scrub players etc :P
> >
> > Atleast playing a person is better than the AI
> >
> > Makoto ftw
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 01:08:26 -0800
> >> Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: New Mailing List
> >> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>
> >> sankyuu
> >>
> >> On 13/08/2013, Wynand-Ben Viljoen
> >> <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >> > The 2nd video in the thread is the proper one... but first one is
> funny
> >> > as
> >> > well :P
> >> >
> >> > The Foot Doctor
> >> > aka The Wreck Shop
> >> > aka jags2007
> >> >
> >> > :P
> >> >
> >> > From: paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: New Mailing List
> >> > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 08:33:01 +0000
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hehe
> >> >
> >> > Here it is, along with the TZ thread.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=126512
> >> >
> >> > Its hilarious
> >> >
> >> >> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 23:22:11 -0800
> >> >> Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: New Mailing List
> >> >> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>
> >> >> WB can you link me to that Lei vid that is just dumb stuff that isn't
> >> >> legit pls.
> >> >> I started watching some Lei tutorial by a guy called pepperbeef
> >> >> something - I had to stop because it was so kak.
> >> >> the comments were all praises proving the world is full of idiots.
> >> >>
> >> >> I watched the Lars/Skillpachi vid - too good.
> >> >>
> >> >> On 12/08/2013, Manase Zote
> >> >> <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >> >> > Ok kool thanks.
> >> >> > On 12 Aug 2013 23:20, "Nicholas Robertson-Muir"
> >> >> > <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Yeap, as long as you can collect it, it'll be all good.
> >> >> >> On 12 Aug 2013 20:12, "Manase Zote"
> >> >> >> <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> I'm happy to bring my station without a screen.
> >> >> >>> @Nick can we use the 3d screen for my station 4 Saturday?
> >> >> >>> On 12 Aug 2013 16:37, "Ryan Williams"
> >> >> >>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> *lol* As long as you're there, I'm happy :)
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
> >> >> >>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>> All I can bring this time is my beautiful body as well as my
> >> >> >>>>> fabulous
> >> >> >>>>> face!
> >> >> >>>>> Achooooo!
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> On 12/08/2013, Ryan Williams
> >> >> >>>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>> > Hey there bro, no worries man *lol*
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>> > Trust you had a good Eid :) Here's the registration link:
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>
> http://zombiegamer.co.za/2upgamers-trenchtown-gaming-tournament-17-august-details-and-pre-registration
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>> > Guys, I still need to know who will provide screens and
> >> >> >>>>> > consoles
> >> >> >>>>> > for
> >> >> >>>>> the
> >> >> >>>>> > Trenchtown event. We will be responsible for running TTT2 and
> >> >> >>>>> > AE
> >> >> >>>>> > tournaments. I think 2 consoles per game should suffice. I
> >> >> >>>>> > need
> >> >> >>>>> > to
> >> >> >>>>> confirm
> >> >> >>>>> > if there will be internet access. I also need to follow up
> >> >> >>>>> > with
> >> >> >>>>> > Zombie
> >> >> >>>>> > Dredd regarding the amount of participants so that I can
> start
> >> >> >>>>> drafting the
> >> >> >>>>> > brackets.
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>> > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Ilitirit Sama
> >> >> >>>>> > <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>> >> Sup guys. Bummed I missed the session. Woke up at 12h30 and
> >> >> >>>>> >> sent
> >> >> >>>>> >> a
> >> >> >>>>> >> message to the whatsapp group asking if I should bring
> >> >> >>>>> >> another
> >> >> >>>>> setup, but
> >> >> >>>>> >> then fell asleep again before anyone replied. Woke up again
> >> >> >>>>> >> at
> >> >> >>>>> >> 5pm
> >> >> >>>>> :\
> >> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>> >> What's happening with the tourney on Saturday? Who is going?
> >> >> >>>>> >> Can
> >> >> >>>>> >> someone
> >> >> >>>>> >> post the registration link?
> >> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
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