Re: Hello
- From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:44:25 +0200
you might just appear like someone who is trying to sound smart.
That is a direct consequence of meta-discussion. You will invariably run
into communication issues in any field where communication (the media,
message, audience etc) itself is the topic of discussion. That's why
philosophical frameworks exist. They facilitate discussion around ideas
that are difficult to express in other terms.
As for the some of the other lingo, it just boils down to familiarity.
Noone has a problem with the term "Hyper Text" today, and yet few people
understand the implication of its meaning. But even so, noone will ever
accuse you of trying to sound smart when you use the term.
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Nice, again, I get it.
It's just that, to my mind, so few people will understand what this is
really about.
So while it's nice to talk about, you might just appear like someone who
is trying to sound smart.
I suppose the polar opposite might be someone removed from "society" who
rejects these notions and instead embrace spirituality.
A monk for instance who lives in a more isolated enviroment would not be
able to integrate his thinking into Simulacra, would he? Seeing as his
social enviroment is so different.
On 28 Aug 2015 17:18, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
While I agree that much of Postmodernism is bullshit
<http://sacquorum.com/stand-alone-complex-and-the-simulacrum/>, the
ideas of Simulacra and Simulation and provide a framework of understanding
certain social phenomena, albeit in a context that some may find
inaccessible. However, it's certainly not something that you have not seen
or heard of before.
http://sacquorum.com/stand-alone-complex-and-the-simulacrum/
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Too much pseudo-intellectual bullshit here.
I read it, understood it (as much as I coukd) and judged it as this.
Feel free to sink my battleship.
I'll bring the capture setup tomorrow at 13:30 or so.
On 28 Aug 2015 15:54, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
lets fyt.
sf5 les go
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 15:47:02 +0200
Subject: Re: Hello
From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
I couldn't have expressed it better LB.
Your language exists in a realm of it's own. Paradoxically
disconnected from reality its existence creates its own hyperreality. And
in this hyperreality, it's ceases to be a simulation of English. The
English language is relegated to history; a forgotten relic of a literate
age.
All that remains is LBlish ("Elblish").
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:39 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:
wtf tsek with ur simulkuk
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 15:32:43 +0200
Subject: Re: Hello
From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Baudrillard was right. The social facade I was lamenting about earlier
appears to be the precession of simulacra.
Baudrillard claims that our current society
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society> has replaced all reality and
meaning with symbols <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbol> and signs,
and that human experience is of a simulation of reality. Moreover, these
simulacra are not merely mediations of reality, nor even deceptive
mediations of reality; they are not based in a reality nor do they hide a
reality, they simply hide that anything like reality is relevant to our
current understanding of our lives. The simulacra that Baudrillard refers
to are the significations and symbolism of culture
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture> and media that construct
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_constructivism> perceived
reality, the acquired understanding by which our lives and shared existence
is and are rendered legible; Baudrillard believed that society has become
so saturated with these simulacra and our lives so saturated with the
constructs of society that all meaning was being rendered meaningless by
being infinitely mutable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation
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