Yeah, I’ve read the 2005 one. While the police had a duty to arrest the guy,
they didn’t have a duty to protect the wife (who had a restraining order
against him). Seems odd.
BTW, there are two states where there are exemptions.
Good Samaritan statutes in the states of Minnesota and Vermont do require a
person at the scene of an emergency to provide reasonable assistance to a
person in
need.[26]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law#cite_note-26>[27]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law#cite_note-27>
This assistance may be to call 9-1-1<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9-1-1>.
Violation of the duty-to-assist subdivision is a petty
misdemeanor<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misdemeanor> in Minnesota and may
warrant a fine of up to $100 in Vermont.
I presume these will apply to police as well. Of course, the cops could just
dial 911…
If the person is under your care, you have a duty (usually for kids). I wonder
if this would then apply to being under protective custody. Makes sense that it
would.
From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
Sent: 01 November 2017 10:22 AM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Nope, not the Bystander law. It's a relatively new (21st century) ruling.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nytimes.com_2005_06_28_politics_justices-2Drule-2Dpolice-2Ddo-2Dnot-2Dhave-2Da-2Dconstitutional-2Dduty-2Dto-2Dprotect.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=0TzQCy9lgR5hSW-bDg5HA76y7nf4lvOzvVop5GM3Y80&r=3188cCLKqrRVUgvzUimFxNxHH_Hcs83no5DXOBKTq-g&m=c0iCJB3LnuWFd-mNWY1knC13S5tJ7IgsXD5UZNpDRoE&s=2CKo-doMJ7126Hu-oi5AXHkOEhsxOCJ8GHsZgaI8Vdc&e=>
Here's a report on the case of the dude who was stabbed in front of cops:
Because “no direct promises of protection were made to Mr. Lozito,” the police
had “no special duty” to protect him.
http://nypost.com/2013/07/26/zero-for-hero-judge-snubs-man-hurt-stopping-butcher-of-brighton-beach/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nypost.com_2013_07_26_zero-2Dfor-2Dhero-2Djudge-2Dsnubs-2Dman-2Dhurt-2Dstopping-2Dbutcher-2Dof-2Dbrighton-2Dbeach_&d=DwMFaQ&c=0TzQCy9lgR5hSW-bDg5HA76y7nf4lvOzvVop5GM3Y80&r=3188cCLKqrRVUgvzUimFxNxHH_Hcs83no5DXOBKTq-g&m=c0iCJB3LnuWFd-mNWY1knC13S5tJ7IgsXD5UZNpDRoE&s=F0PJS9LPVX6houOf-VelPgoEijSqV4TOZA0PBcvyS9o&e=>
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Yeah, isn’t that the US Bystander law? You’re under zero obligation to do
anything. While the cops might have internal (departmental) regulations that
differ, they’re not obligated by law to do anything – same as everyone else.
From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
Sent: 01 November 2017 9:49 AM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Hello
Read something quite disturbing yesterday. Apparently in the USA, the police
are under no obligation to protect individuals from harm. even though their
priority is to serve and protect. In other words, a police officer can watch
you get stabbed to death and he is not required by law to do anything. There's
a famous case about this that happened in 2011 in New York.
I have no idea what the status quo is in South Africa.
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