Lydonville Sub operations continued [was CP milk trains]
- From: "jshorvath10583" <jshorvath10583@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:32:30 -0000
"mcindoefalls" <mcindoefalls@...> wrote:
My train register starts on January 3, 1952. Here's the lineup that
day:
South
Train 210, B&M 3817, 8 cars
902, CP 4006/4003, 35 loads/3 mt
212, CP 1802, 6 cars
904, CP 4004/4006, 28/1
50, CP 8403, 6/4
906, B&M 1501, 9/1
North
209, B&M 3819, 12 cars
901, B&M 1501, 17/14
Extra CP 7098, 1/13
903, CP 4003/4400, 3/12
211, CP 1801, 6 cars
915, CP 4006/4003, 27/44
A glance at other entries shows at least one northbound extra each
day. That's probably Train 50's return; 50 was scheduled southbound
but there was no northbound equivalent. Unfortunately, there's no
clue here as to when the milk might have run.
Being relatively new to this list I only became aware of this
posted information recently. A belated thank you, Walt! However it
does seem to support my hypothesis as outlined in a post earlier
today that the CPR moved its Lyndonville Sub milk operations to a
combination of existing freight and passenger trains soon, if not
immediately, after their milk trains came off ca. 1951.
As I said earlier, there's admittedly a gap in hard facts as to how
the CPR handled the milk between about 1951 and 1955. My current
thinking is that the complex pattern for handling milk loads and
empties that existed ca. 1955 also applied to earlier years,
possibly beginning more or less immediately after the milk trains
came off in 1951. I had no firm support for this, other than it made
sense, until I came across the above train-register data in the
archives within the past week. The lack of a 'milk extra', at least
southbound, suggests there was none and that the milk was handled on
scheduled trains.
It would be interesting if Walt, when he has the time and
inclination, could look at the remainder of his train register (how
long after 3Jan1952 does it go, Walt?) and tell us if the above
pattern pretty much remains constant or not. The consistent absence
of a daily extra, especially southbound as the milk loads moved,
would pretty well suggest there was no milk extra to pick up the
slack when the scheduled milk trains came off. If so, that would
make the ca. 1954 photos of what is obviously a milk extra coming
off the Lyndonville Sub an atypical event. Perhaps CPR #906, which I
believe moved the bulk of the Lyndonville Sub milk loads south to
WRJ, was very late that day and an extra was called to make the
connection with the B&M's 352-X @ WRJ.
JSH
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