Well, I never!! As one last effort to get a mouse and keyboard to work, I drove the 12 miles to fetch the OEM kb & mouse that had last worked with the computer. They worked fine. It is the first time I have had any troubles with kb's and mice working with any Wxx machine. Both mice were scroll mice (one genica and one Microsoft) and both kb's were Gateway (of different vintage). ??? ovk -------------------------------------------------------------- > >If you let it time out it boots up but without keyboard support. I have been in > >safe mode operating normally. I get the "Windows did not detect a mouse > >attached to the computer..." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Computer Talk Shop http://www.computertalkshop.com Un-subscribe/Vacation, http://szaroconsulting.com/cts/list_options.htm List HowTo: http://szaroconsulting.com/cts/faq To join Computer Talk Shop's off topic list, please goto: http://szaroconsulting.com/cts/other_cts_lists.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------