Klaus, Ross is correct about the ZIP, it contains both (anyway mine does) CTL3D.DLL and CTL3DV2.DLL...might try renaming any CTL3D files in your \windows\system directory to something else for backup purposes, then unzip the CTL3D.ZIP contents into your windows/system directory. As for the error messages you received, it sounds like Calmira is running into problems with some other application also trying to load at Windows startup. Or, it could also be a corrupted installation. So, copy your START.INI and CALMIRA.INI files to a backup directory somewhere, then do a complete re-install. Also, might use a text editor or reader and examine the files WIN.INI, and SYSTEM.INI...look and see what apps are being loaded at Windows start. Then, look at the startup group, see if if contains anything. The other thing to try is a COMPLETE REBUILD of the Start Menu in Calmira. One last thing to check on, version 3.2 does not use the old FOLDER.BAT and OPEN.BAT files...rename these to FOLDER.TAB and OPEN.TAB for "backup" purposes, in case you wish to install an older version of Calmira. This should leave you with one BATCH file for launching DOS programs, etc., named START.BAT. If I think of any other possible problems I'll let you know. But it does sound like something else is trying to start at same time as Calmira, trying to use the same addresses in memory... the "usual" culprits to this are apps loaded in WIN.INI from a RUN=APP.EXE or LOAD=APP.EXE line, where APP.EXE is the application giving problems, and the most common one causing problems, in my experience, have been other toolbar and app launching programs. Good Luck! Glenn http://members.surfbest.net/wizard57m@xxxxxxxxxxxx/index.htm http://members.aol.com/GLENNRPH/glennrph.htm -- To unsubscribe, send a message to listar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit http://freelists.dhs.org