[bvipilots] Re: solving the unsolvable: visual approach at cyba flight 004 around the world as a bvi pilot

  • From: Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:13:27 -0700

Hello,

Michelle release the air speed control below 1,000 feet AGL if you have
told Michelle...

"I'll handle the landing"

or, if the aircraft does not support auto-landing.

If you're handling the landing, Michelle also indicates that you have
control of the auto-pilot.

I hope this helps.

Robert


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM, hadi <hadirezaei@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi
> Recently IYP releases speed control on descend (near approach)
> i have no idea what's up though
>
>
> On 8/21/2013 1:17 AM, Jason Fayre wrote:
>
>> Wow, your running fsx in a vm?  Keep in mind that fsx is quite taxing on
>> a basic system.  No idea what that would behave like in a vm.
>>
>> On 8/20/2013 4:21 PM, Noel Romey wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder if this flight is made more difficult for my processor since
>>> I am using a virtual machine to run fsx? I really need to get windows
>>> installed to a new partition because I know I have plenty of processor
>>> and memory, but I know that when my issue seems to happen, engines
>>> rev, the thing says that speed is no longer being controlled and
>>> inexplicably I end up full throttle no crash sound but Michelle
>>> welcomes me to banff. With the airport off to the side which is very
>>> odd.
>>>
>>> I have a second pc I could use. May have to check out widefs. Sounds
>>> like a cool way to run fsx.
>>>
>>> Noel.
>>>
>>> On Aug 20, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Jason Fayre <jfayre@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>> Its been a long time.  As I remember, Robert had to make a change to
>>>> IYP in order to handle that incoming banf flight. As far as taking off from
>>>> banf, I remember you needed to adjust your rate of climb and make a turn
>>>> almost immediately after takeoff.  Let me did back through my e-mail and
>>>> I'll see what I find.
>>>> As far as manual control, I don't.  I usually let Michelle do all the
>>>> work.  I would like to do more manual control, but I haven't found a good
>>>> way to do this.  I do have an extremely hacked together way of getting
>>>> various info from FSX to show up on a Braille display.  This requires a
>>>> second PC and WideFS, but it does work.  Its really quite cool actually!
>>>> You can see your airspeed, altitude, heading, etc, all change in real time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/20/2013 3:49 PM, Noel Romey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Jason
>>>>> See my previous message about this flight but I do mention that I
>>>>> tried it with a beech barob as well with no real success. Do you take
>>>>> the control of the stick at times when you are descending too quickly?
>>>>> Still can't figure how you make it happen but I swear I must make it
>>>>> work some day. Lolm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 18, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Jason Fayre <jfayre@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>> I did that flight in a Baron 58.  Not sure if that makes a difference
>>>>>> or not.  Flying in and out of Banf is tricky! Maybe Robert or someone 
>>>>>> else
>>>>>> can chime in here, because I don't remember what I did to get around 
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>  Leaving Banf is extremely tricky as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/18/2013 12:09 AM, Noel Romey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My idea of a nice day is not spending it three miles from the airport
>>>>>>> impaled in a mountain.  've flown from kalw to cyba (banff) twice now
>>>>>>> and I can reproduce the issue perfectly every time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About 30 miles out, after gong up and down from 11 to 12000 a couple
>>>>>>> times, skiming mountains I guess, I execute the descent checklist.
>>>>>>> Speed drops to 120m abd checklist is completed. At 10 miles, I am
>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>> to turn to 360 and go straig t in for visual on runway 36.  At this
>>>>>>> point, I execute the approach checklist and at the same time, tell
>>>>>>> Michelle to "Prepare to land on runway 36".  She obliges, I think, Oh
>>>>>>> yeah, I'm also told to descend to 6400, all these things at the same
>>>>>>> time.  I'm in a mooney bravo so climb rate isn't the greatest I
>>>>>>> guess,
>>>>>>> so maybe this is the problem.  I descend pretty quickly to about 1800
>>>>>>> agl, gear goes down, all is green, then it says "man, it's getting
>>>>>>> bumpy".  Engines rev up to full, fsx beeps, and with throttle at
>>>>>>> full,
>>>>>>> and iyp telling me that she's no longer controlling my speed, and the
>>>>>>> "if I don't want her to control landing I should turn auto pilot
>>>>>>> off",
>>>>>>> my speed is 0, and I'm 4 oclock from runway at 2700 feet 3 miles
>>>>>>> away.
>>>>>>>   NOw I know taht the runway isn't 3 miles long, and though Michelle
>>>>>>> warmly welcomes me to Banff, I assume I'm in Bnaff, in someone's back
>>>>>>> yard or something or in a mountain, I'm not landed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know this is possible as someone blind has completed more flights
>>>>>>> than 4, but I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong or why iyp is getting
>>>>>>> confused.  Is atc giving me the descend too late and I should jsut
>>>>>>> disregard them and descend more slowly?  I was concerned that I'd hit
>>>>>>> a mountain on the way in as I didn't know where the mountains ended.
>>>>>>> Airport elevation is 4500 ft, so I'd have 6500 feet to descend which
>>>>>>> should be plenty to be done in 10 miles.  Any thoughts guys?
>>>>>>> Really enjoying this challenge of flying.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Noel
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