[bvipilots] Re: Metar issues was Re: Re: never sneeze when you fly with Michelle

  • From: Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 04:36:49 -0700

Please ask for the weather at KPHX right now.

Thank you


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Noel Romey <nromey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Well, I originally was talking about get weather.  Then Mitchell asked
> about problems he was having with get local weather.  I still continue
> having problems with get weather returning correct metar observations
> but incorrect Zulu times.  Sorry to confuse, two topics got rolled up
> in to this thing.
>
> Noel
>
>
> On 9/9/13, Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Now I am completely and utterly confused.
> >
> > What are we talking about?
> >
> > 1. "Get the weather for Charlie Yankee Victor Romeo"
> >
> > or,
> >
> > 2. "Get local weather"
> >
> > Number one selects the current active weather for the declared ICAO.
> > Number two selects the weather selected in the simulator.
> >
> > Please select 1 or 2.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Noel Romey <nromey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> My original concern was with get weather.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 9, 2013, at 3:49 PM, hadi <hadirezaei@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Robert, they are talking about
> >> "get local weather"
> >>
> >> On 9/10/2013 12:00 AM, Robert Cezar wrote:
> >>
> >> Quite the opposite. Perhaps I didn't explain it properly.
> >>
> >>  RESTATED:
> >> If the FSX application is in the foreground, and the BVI mode is active,
> >> then the ATC windows is forced open. Is that any clearer?
> >>
> >>  Robert
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Mitchel Snel
> >> <brailletijger@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >>
> >>> dear Robert,
> >>> does this mean that when iyp is in the bvi mode it will not work?
> >>> greetings, Mitchel
> >>>
> >>> 2013/9/9, Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>>  > Hello,
> >>> >
> >>> > When running in the BVI mode, the ATC window is forced open at all
> >>> times.
> >>> > If it is inadvertently closed, the IYP application forces it to the
> >>> > open
> >>> > state immediately. However, the simulator application must be in the
> >>> > foreground.
> >>> >
> >>> > Robert
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 10:05 AM, hadi <hadirezaei@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Same thing happening to me as well~ doesn't work
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On 9/9/2013 9:11 PM, Noel Romey wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> jMitchell,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> This has happened to me.  Seems as if it has some odd thing happen
> >>> >>> with the key presses on atc.  The ATC window has to be open when
> the
> >>> >>> keypresses happen and sometimes, those keypresses don't seem to
> >>> >>> work.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Noel
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On 9/9/13, Mitchel Snel <brailletijger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>> sorry problem with my braille display!
> >>> >>>> if I ask michell for the weather with the get local weather
> command
> >>> >>>> I
> >>> >>>> get a announcement when there is no local weather but sometimes I
> >>> >>>> get
> >>> >>>> no responds.
> >>> >>>> I assume that there is local weather then but I do not get the
> >>> >>>> local
> >>> >>>> weather?
> >>> >>>> greetings, Mitchel
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> 2013/9/9, Mitchel Snel <brailletijger@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>> dear Robert,
> >>> >>>>> sorry that I move into this topic but if I ask michel
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> 2013/9/9, Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> The METAR data comes from the United States NOAA service located
> >>> >>>>>> here:
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> http://aviationweather.gov/
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> I would suggest that you direct your questions to them directly.
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> Please let me know what they say.
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>> >>>>>> Robert
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Noel Romey <nromey@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>  Robert,
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> I don't have a problem with the metar obversations, just the
> >>> >>>>>>> ones
> >>> >>>>>>> announced by iyp as relates to time.  I pulled two reports, one
> >>> for
> >>> >>>>>>> kphx (Phoenix Sky Harbor) and one for KLIT (Little Rock).  I
> >>> pulled
> >>> >>>>>>> klit twoce actually.  Both reports from kphx and klit were
> >>> >>>>>>> correct
> >>> >>>>>>> as
> >>> >>>>>>> far as conditions, but the time reported was 0914.  a 31 C
> >>> >>>>>>> temperature
> >>> >>>>>>> at 3 A>M. in Little Rock is probably not completely correct.  I
> >>> >>>>>>> pulled
> >>> >>>>>>> KLIT a second time with a flight loaded to Little Rock.  That
> >>> time,
> >>> >>>>>>> I
> >>> >>>>>>> got a 0915 Zulu time, and a temperature of 32.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Is there a problem with the scrape of the new metar data?
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Noel
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> On 9/9/13, Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> REGARDING: METAR updates
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> The METAR reports are typically updated at the end of each
> >>> >>>>>>>> hour.
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Here's a good link that describes METAR in detail:
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>  >>>>>>>> http://weather.cod.edu/notes/**metar.html<
> >>> http://weather.cod.edu/notes/metar.html>
> >>>  >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>> >>>>>>>> Robert
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Noel Romey <nromey@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>  I'm making out. Have found a few cosmetic if you will bugs
> >>> which I
> >>> >>>>>>>>> will
> >>> >>>>>>>>> compile and send privately. When I ask to check weather for a
> >>> >>>>>>>>> location
> >>> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>> >>>>>>>>> conditions seem to be ok but Zulu Time doesn't update much.
> >>> >>>>>>>>> Does
> >>> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>> >>>>>>>>> new
> >>> >>>>>>>>> service for metar not update often or is there some other
> >>> problem?
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> Ner
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Robert Cezar <
> >>> robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> How are you making out?
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> Robert
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Noel Romey <nromey@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>  Hi guys,
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> I was flying this morning from cyyc o cyxj.  About 180 miles
> >>> from
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> airport, I sneezed into the microphone.  It was not muted
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> unfortunately.  MS Speech Recognition took my sneeze as a
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> keypress.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> two things happened in succession.  First, I should say,
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> these
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> keypresses were on the FSX side, not the IYP Michelle side
> of
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> things.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> First, the autopilot got turned off and second, my engine
> >>> mixture
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> was
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> set to lean.  I dropped from 1000 to nothing in about 10
> >>> seconds.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> Didn't know what happened because I didn't know what I
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> pressed,
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> so
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> I
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> thought fist to set engine mixture to rich, well I said
> lean,
> >>> so
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> I
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> ultimately pulled back up to about 4000 feet, then fell
> back.
> >>>  In
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> essence, FSX was confused.  Finally got things dialed back
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> in,
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> got
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> up to 10300 feet and climbing, aTC yelling at me that I was
> >>> above
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> my
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> altitude.  That's when I found that autopilot got turned
> off.
> >>>  I
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> would
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> have started over because in real life, I would have been
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> exploded
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> into bits on the middle of frontier Canada, but I flew the
> >>> flight
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> last
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> night and on approach, lost all FSX  sound (nothing I could
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> do
> >>> to
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> get
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> it back either), so II just continued flying.  I've got FSX
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> set
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> not
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> allow for crashes for some reason apparently under realism
> (I
> >>> had
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> not
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> idea that could be set).  Luckily for me, I'm save in Fort
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> St.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> John.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> Another note, upon landing, I got to 100 feet and the wind
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> blew
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> me
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> up
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> so I was a few feet from the ground but not landed and I
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> didn't
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> hear
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> a
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> bump or crash sound.  So I pulled up (execute go around
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> didn't
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> work
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> for some reason) flew a while and then prepared to land at
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> runway.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>   Autopilot was on again again so I turned it off, did
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> approach
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> checklist again, and was able to land.  I think that
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> crosswinds
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> caused
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> problems for me, so when I came back the second time, they
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> weren't
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> as
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> significant so Michelle was able to help.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> This is going to be a challenging trip.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> Noel
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