[bvipilots] Re: Metar issues was Re: Re: never sneeze when you fly with Michelle
- From: Noel Romey <nromey@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 07:06:01 -0400
Well, I originally was talking about get weather. Then Mitchell asked
about problems he was having with get local weather. I still continue
having problems with get weather returning correct metar observations
but incorrect Zulu times. Sorry to confuse, two topics got rolled up
in to this thing.
Noel
On 9/9/13, Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Now I am completely and utterly confused.
>
> What are we talking about?
>
> 1. "Get the weather for Charlie Yankee Victor Romeo"
>
> or,
>
> 2. "Get local weather"
>
> Number one selects the current active weather for the declared ICAO.
> Number two selects the weather selected in the simulator.
>
> Please select 1 or 2.
>
> Regards,
> Robert
>
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> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Noel Romey <nromey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> My original concern was with get weather.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2013, at 3:49 PM, hadi <hadirezaei@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Robert, they are talking about
>> "get local weather"
>>
>> On 9/10/2013 12:00 AM, Robert Cezar wrote:
>>
>> Quite the opposite. Perhaps I didn't explain it properly.
>>
>> RESTATED:
>> If the FSX application is in the foreground, and the BVI mode is active,
>> then the ATC windows is forced open. Is that any clearer?
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Mitchel Snel
>> <brailletijger@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> dear Robert,
>>> does this mean that when iyp is in the bvi mode it will not work?
>>> greetings, Mitchel
>>>
>>> 2013/9/9, Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > When running in the BVI mode, the ATC window is forced open at all
>>> times.
>>> > If it is inadvertently closed, the IYP application forces it to the
>>> > open
>>> > state immediately. However, the simulator application must be in the
>>> > foreground.
>>> >
>>> > Robert
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 10:05 AM, hadi <hadirezaei@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Same thing happening to me as well~ doesn't work
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 9/9/2013 9:11 PM, Noel Romey wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> jMitchell,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> This has happened to me. Seems as if it has some odd thing happen
>>> >>> with the key presses on atc. The ATC window has to be open when the
>>> >>> keypresses happen and sometimes, those keypresses don't seem to
>>> >>> work.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Noel
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 9/9/13, Mitchel Snel <brailletijger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> sorry problem with my braille display!
>>> >>>> if I ask michell for the weather with the get local weather command
>>> >>>> I
>>> >>>> get a announcement when there is no local weather but sometimes I
>>> >>>> get
>>> >>>> no responds.
>>> >>>> I assume that there is local weather then but I do not get the
>>> >>>> local
>>> >>>> weather?
>>> >>>> greetings, Mitchel
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> 2013/9/9, Mitchel Snel <brailletijger@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> dear Robert,
>>> >>>>> sorry that I move into this topic but if I ask michel
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> 2013/9/9, Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> The METAR data comes from the United States NOAA service located
>>> >>>>>> here:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> http://aviationweather.gov/
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I would suggest that you direct your questions to them directly.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Please let me know what they say.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>>>> Robert
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Noel Romey <nromey@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Robert,
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> I don't have a problem with the metar obversations, just the
>>> >>>>>>> ones
>>> >>>>>>> announced by iyp as relates to time. I pulled two reports, one
>>> for
>>> >>>>>>> kphx (Phoenix Sky Harbor) and one for KLIT (Little Rock). I
>>> pulled
>>> >>>>>>> klit twoce actually. Both reports from kphx and klit were
>>> >>>>>>> correct
>>> >>>>>>> as
>>> >>>>>>> far as conditions, but the time reported was 0914. a 31 C
>>> >>>>>>> temperature
>>> >>>>>>> at 3 A>M. in Little Rock is probably not completely correct. I
>>> >>>>>>> pulled
>>> >>>>>>> KLIT a second time with a flight loaded to Little Rock. That
>>> time,
>>> >>>>>>> I
>>> >>>>>>> got a 0915 Zulu time, and a temperature of 32.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Is there a problem with the scrape of the new metar data?
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Noel
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On 9/9/13, Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Hi,
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> REGARDING: METAR updates
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> The METAR reports are typically updated at the end of each
>>> >>>>>>>> hour.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Here's a good link that describes METAR in detail:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> http://weather.cod.edu/notes/**metar.html<
>>> http://weather.cod.edu/notes/metar.html>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Regards,
>>> >>>>>>>> Robert
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Noel Romey <nromey@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> I'm making out. Have found a few cosmetic if you will bugs
>>> which I
>>> >>>>>>>>> will
>>> >>>>>>>>> compile and send privately. When I ask to check weather for a
>>> >>>>>>>>> location
>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>> conditions seem to be ok but Zulu Time doesn't update much.
>>> >>>>>>>>> Does
>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>> new
>>> >>>>>>>>> service for metar not update often or is there some other
>>> problem?
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Ner
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Robert Cezar <
>>> robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Hi,
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> How are you making out?
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Robert
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Noel Romey <nromey@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> I was flying this morning from cyyc o cyxj. About 180 miles
>>> from
>>> >>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>> airport, I sneezed into the microphone. It was not muted
>>> >>>>>>>>>> unfortunately. MS Speech Recognition took my sneeze as a
>>> >>>>>>>>>> keypress.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> two things happened in succession. First, I should say,
>>> >>>>>>>>>> these
>>> >>>>>>>>>> keypresses were on the FSX side, not the IYP Michelle side of
>>> >>>>>>>>>> things.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> First, the autopilot got turned off and second, my engine
>>> mixture
>>> >>>>>>>>>> was
>>> >>>>>>>>>> set to lean. I dropped from 1000 to nothing in about 10
>>> seconds.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Didn't know what happened because I didn't know what I
>>> >>>>>>>>>> pressed,
>>> >>>>>>>>>> so
>>> >>>>>>>>>> I
>>> >>>>>>>>>> thought fist to set engine mixture to rich, well I said lean,
>>> so
>>> >>>>>>>>>> I
>>> >>>>>>>>>> ultimately pulled back up to about 4000 feet, then fell back.
>>> In
>>> >>>>>>>>>> essence, FSX was confused. Finally got things dialed back
>>> >>>>>>>>>> in,
>>> >>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>> got
>>> >>>>>>>>>> up to 10300 feet and climbing, aTC yelling at me that I was
>>> above
>>> >>>>>>>>>> my
>>> >>>>>>>>>> altitude. That's when I found that autopilot got turned off.
>>> I
>>> >>>>>>>>>> would
>>> >>>>>>>>>> have started over because in real life, I would have been
>>> >>>>>>>>>> exploded
>>> >>>>>>>>>> into bits on the middle of frontier Canada, but I flew the
>>> flight
>>> >>>>>>>>>> last
>>> >>>>>>>>>> night and on approach, lost all FSX sound (nothing I could
>>> >>>>>>>>>> do
>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>> get
>>> >>>>>>>>>> it back either), so II just continued flying. I've got FSX
>>> >>>>>>>>>> set
>>> >>>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>> not
>>> >>>>>>>>>> allow for crashes for some reason apparently under realism (I
>>> had
>>> >>>>>>>>>> not
>>> >>>>>>>>>> idea that could be set). Luckily for me, I'm save in Fort
>>> >>>>>>>>>> St.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> John.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Another note, upon landing, I got to 100 feet and the wind
>>> >>>>>>>>>> blew
>>> >>>>>>>>>> me
>>> >>>>>>>>>> up
>>> >>>>>>>>>> so I was a few feet from the ground but not landed and I
>>> >>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>> >>>>>>>>>> hear
>>> >>>>>>>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>>> bump or crash sound. So I pulled up (execute go around
>>> >>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>> >>>>>>>>>> work
>>> >>>>>>>>>> for some reason) flew a while and then prepared to land at
>>> >>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>> runway.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Autopilot was on again again so I turned it off, did
>>> >>>>>>>>>> approach
>>> >>>>>>>>>> checklist again, and was able to land. I think that
>>> >>>>>>>>>> crosswinds
>>> >>>>>>>>>> caused
>>> >>>>>>>>>> problems for me, so when I came back the second time, they
>>> >>>>>>>>>> weren't
>>> >>>>>>>>>> as
>>> >>>>>>>>>> significant so Michelle was able to help.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is going to be a challenging trip.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Noel
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