[bvipilots] Re: Commenting on IYP biuld 336

  • From: "Ron Kolesar" <kolesar16417@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:54:44 -0400

Thanks Robert. 
That does help. 
See what happens when you don’t have sight to quickly glance at your CRT? GRIN. 
But the frustrating thing is that everytime I turn around I have to turn the 
voice back on. 
Will let you know how the B744 flight goes later tonight. 
Thanks for the feedback though. 


Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states 
"that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week."

From: Robert Cezar 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 3:46 PM
To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Commenting on IYP biuld 336

Hi Ron,

I well understood what you were referring to.  Have you looked at your Cockpit 
Voice Recorder Transcript file?

Here are some excerpts:

Michelle said, ’Climb and maintain flight level two four zero Roger.’ 11:15:05 
AM
Michelle said, ’23000, 2800, 323’ 11:15:27 AM
Michelle said, ’24000, 2100 even, 322’ 11:15:49 AM
Michelle said, ’Level at 24000’ 11:16:02 AM

Then you start asking things like....

You said, ’get current altitude’ 11:17:52 AM
Michelle said, ’Current altitude, 24084 feet.’ 11:17:52 AM
You said, ’get current altitude’ 11:17:53 AM
Michelle said, ’Current altitude, 24084 feet.’ 11:17:54 AM
You said, ’thank you’ 11:18:06 AM
Michelle said, ’You’re welcome.’ 11:18:08 AM

You said, ’restore simulator’ 11:21:18 AM
Michelle said, ’The simulator has been restored and is now in view.’ 11:21:18 AM
You said, ’run simulator’ 11:21:23 AM

These are the kind of unnecessary queries that can cause announcements to be 
SMASHED.

I hope this helps.





On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Ron Kolesar <kolesar16417@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

  I’ll probably be taking IYPVA FL173 in the b744 around 01:00 GMT later 
tonight. 
  Saw the QNH announcement which is what we nornmally will get. 
  But I was talking about climbing up to the level ALT. 
  Normally you’ll get Michele telling you that you’ve reached your leveled ALT 
and the ETA will be and so on. 
  This is what I was reporting on. 
  Will try another private flight with the citation X 750 later. 
  I think I sadly might have to replace my cordless headset. 
  I don’t want to, but it looks like I’m going to have to unless anyone else 
has some advice on why the stupid recognition is constantly shutting off on me. 
  Thanks.

  Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states 
  "that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week."

  From: Robert Cezar 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 3:22 PM
  To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Commenting on IYP biuld 336

  Hi Ron, 

  Well, the fact that you were minimizing and restoring the simulator, putting 
the aircraft in and out of pause, calling for METAR reports, setting the 
altimeter, then turning on auto-altimeter, plus a myriad of other unnecessary 
actions that you conducted during the start of descent, likely caused the 
announcement to get SMASHED.

  Please try again with a normal descent procedure and let me know what 
happens. Thanks.

  Regards,
  Robert



  On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Ron Kolesar <kolesar16417@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

    Hi Robert.
    Did see anything new with my test flight with the citation X C750 from KERi 
to KAZO.
    I need to ask the following though.
    Did you turn off the level ALT ETA announcements?
    Because Michele did do her tour guide duties.
    But when we reached our Level ALT of 240, she did not give the normal Speed 
and normal ETA speech.
    Just thought you'd want to know about this.
    Other than that with my end the speech recognitionturning itself off on me 
then having to re go and turn it back on.
    Except for the missing ETA speech, it was a perfect flight.
    Many Thanks and like you constantly are telling us to do
    Keep the Blue Side up.

    Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states
    "that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week." 
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