Thank you for your answers Jimmy Weber Disability Program Navigator Siouxland Tri-State Workforce Development Center 2508 4th Street Sioux City, Iowa 51101-2298 voice: 712-233-9030, ext 1045; fax 712-277-8438 tty: 1-800-831-1399 jimmy.weber@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.iowaworkforce.org/access/navigators.htm "Assistive Devices are tools for liberation, not devices for confinement. The absence of assistive devices can be confinement." Auxiliary aids and services are available upon request for individuals with disabilities. Equal Opportunity Employer/Program. "Mary Otten"@IWDWEB Sent by: @IWDWEB 07/12/2004 04:29 PM Please respond to bookshare-discuss To: "bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> cc: Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: pdf files The short answer to the accessibility of the pdf file is that some can be accessed just fine, while others cannot, because of the security/permissions settings on the file established by its author. Its possible to make a pdf file that neither Openbook nor K1000 can access, and the same is true for using a screen reader with the latest version of Acrobat reader. Mary