Actually Fine Reader is doing the job. It recognized the pages I could not get Kurzweil to recognize! I am really happy about it. But now to get it saved as a .rtf, how do you do it Jim? Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Advisory Council www.guidedogs.com The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs. -- Vance Havner