[bookport] Re: never mind my last question, but afewcomments

  • From: Robert Carter <r-carter@xxxxxxx>
  • To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:00:24 -0500

Hi,

I am fairly confident but haven't tested but two books that they were both 
off by one.

Robert Carter

At 08:45 AM 6/9/2004, you wrote:
>Robert:
>
>Keeping in mind that Braille page numbers are at the bottom of the page, =
>do you find that some books work and some don't, or do you find that all =
>books are off by one? I am investigating with the books I have, and will =
>make necessary changes.
>
> >>> r-carter@xxxxxxx 06/09/04 09:16AM >>>
>Hi,
>
>With a couple of Web Braille books, I have noticed that the page number=20
>seems to be about one number less than what the book is actually =
>showing.=20
>In other words, page 49 according to the braille page number will be =
>shown=20
>as page 48 by the Book Port page numbering system. Has anyone else =
>noticed=20
>this?
>
>Robert Carter
>
>At 08:09 AM 6/9/2004, you wrote:
> >Robert:
> >
> >Page numbers are, in many cases, not related to any page numbers that may =
>=3D
> >or may not exist in the material. Following are some examples of how page =
>=3D
> >numbers are used.
> >
> >when you send a text file, the unit always starts with page 1, and will =
>do =3D
> >one of two things:
> >
> >1. If the file contains form feeds, they will be considered page breaks.
> >
> >2. If the file does not contain page breaks, the software will insert =
>what =3D
> >we call synthetic page breaks. Synthetic page breaks are currently =3D
> >inserted after every eight paragraphs.
> >
> >When you send a .brf file, the software attempts to identify Braille page =
>=3D
> >numbering.
> >
> >If you send an MP3 file, you will start at page one, and every long pause =
>=3D
> >will be considered a new page. Using Send As Music will cause a page =
>break =3D
> >every 30 seconds.
> >
> >With Audible files a page is currently 5 minutes or the next section, =3D
> >which ever comes first. Of course, they always start at page one.
> >
> >With Digital Talking Books which contain page mark-up, page numbers will =
>=3D
> >correspond to the page numbers in the original book. These books are the =
>=3D
> >most accurate use of the page numbering system.
> >
> >Rob Meredith
> >
> > >>> r-carter@xxxxxxx 06/09/04 08:53AM >>>
> >Hi All,
> >
> >I think the current combo box scheme is just fine. It seems to allow one =
>=3D
> >to=3D20
> >easily select the default which is the whole file if that will fit or =3D
> >one=3D20
> >can select the amount that they want to send. I think it all works great. =
>=3D
> >I=3D20
> >think it is too bad that only format 4 is supported as those files =
>are=3D20
> >really large but I understand that is how it had to be.
> >
> >I have already read a couple of audible books on the Book Port and love =
>=3D
> >how=3D20
> >easily it is to move back by a phrase if you want a sentence repeated. =
>=3D
> >What=3D20
> >is the logic behind the page numbering system? In other words, how does =
>=3D
> >the=3D20
> >Book Port determine what page you are on in an audible file or in a =3D
> >file=3D20
> >that started out as a .brf file for that matter?
> >
> >Robert Carter
> >
> >At 07:31 AM 6/9/2004, you wrote:
> > >Paul:
> > >
> > >You have to load each part of a book separately, because there is =
>nothing =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >binding those files together as a book. Yeah, the file names are =
>similar, =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >but you can't always count on this because of inconsistent naming.
> > >
> > >Regarding the combo boxes for start and end times...
> > >
> > >It sounds like someone like you should just ignore the boxes and press =
>=3D
> >=3D3D
> > >Enter to get whatever will fit. The default for a file which is not on =
>=3D
> >the =3D3D
> > >device already is to start at the beginning, and send as much as will =
>=3D
> >fit. =3D3D
> > >If you already have the file on the device, the default is to start at =
>=3D
> >=3D3D
> > >your last reading position and send as much as will fit.
> > >
> > >We had to come up with some kind of scheme to allow selecting how much =
>of =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >an Audible file to send, and 5 minute intervals seemed to be the best =
>=3D3D
> > >choice. Yeah, most people won't start at 15 minutes and send 30 minutes =
>=3D
> >of =3D3D
> > >material, but Audible sections can range from very short to very long, =
>=3D
> >and =3D3D
> > >limiting selections to sections would minimize flexibility for users =
>with =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >small flash cards.
> > >
> > >Perhaps we could skip the dialog if all of the file will fit? What do =
>=3D3D
> > >others think about the current scheme?
> > >
> > >Rob Meredith
> > >
> > > >>> paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 06/08/04 10:19PM >>>
> > >Hi, Larry and Rod. Never mind my last question. Turns out the book I =
>=3D3D
> > >was=3D3D20
> > >trying to load was not type four.
> > >I will have to go back and see if I can get it as type four.
> > >However, some comments.
> > >It takes an extremely long time to load one of these files, much =3D
> >slower=3D3D20
> > >than loading an mp3 file.
> > >Also, I was surprised that in a book that contains more than one file, =
>=3D
> >=3D3D
> > >I=3D3D20
> > >have  to load each part separately.
> > >And why the combo boxes that ask me where I want to start and end? If =
>=3D
> >I=3D3D20
> > >have plenty of room, why would I not want to start at the beginning and =
>=3D
> >=3D3D
> > >end=3D3D20
> > >at the end<grin>? I don't understand the use of these boxes.
> > >Why would I want to start five minutes in or more?
> > >Thanks.


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