[bookport] Re: never mind my last question, but afewcomments
- From: Daveed Mandell <daveed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 07:45:52 -0700 (PDT)
In literary books, braille page numbers are at the top of the page.
On Wed, 9 Jun 2004, ROB MEREDITH wrote:
> Robert:
>
> Keeping in mind that Braille page numbers are at the bottom of the page, =
> do you find that some books work and some don't, or do you find that all =
> books are off by one? I am investigating with the books I have, and will =
> make necessary changes.
>
>>>> r-carter@xxxxxxx 06/09/04 09:16AM >>>
> Hi,
>
> With a couple of Web Braille books, I have noticed that the page number=20
> seems to be about one number less than what the book is actually =
> showing.=20
> In other words, page 49 according to the braille page number will be =
> shown=20
> as page 48 by the Book Port page numbering system. Has anyone else =
> noticed=20
> this?
>
> Robert Carter
>
> At 08:09 AM 6/9/2004, you wrote:
>> Robert:
>>
>> Page numbers are, in many cases, not related to any page numbers that may =
> =3D
>> or may not exist in the material. Following are some examples of how page =
> =3D
>> numbers are used.
>>
>> when you send a text file, the unit always starts with page 1, and will =
> do =3D
>> one of two things:
>>
>> 1. If the file contains form feeds, they will be considered page breaks.
>>
>> 2. If the file does not contain page breaks, the software will insert =
> what =3D
>> we call synthetic page breaks. Synthetic page breaks are currently =3D
>> inserted after every eight paragraphs.
>>
>> When you send a .brf file, the software attempts to identify Braille page =
> =3D
>> numbering.
>>
>> If you send an MP3 file, you will start at page one, and every long pause =
> =3D
>> will be considered a new page. Using Send As Music will cause a page =
> break =3D
>> every 30 seconds.
>>
>> With Audible files a page is currently 5 minutes or the next section, =3D
>> which ever comes first. Of course, they always start at page one.
>>
>> With Digital Talking Books which contain page mark-up, page numbers will =
> =3D
>> correspond to the page numbers in the original book. These books are the =
> =3D
>> most accurate use of the page numbering system.
>>
>> Rob Meredith
>>
>>>>> r-carter@xxxxxxx 06/09/04 08:53AM >>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I think the current combo box scheme is just fine. It seems to allow one =
> =3D
>> to=3D20
>> easily select the default which is the whole file if that will fit or =3D
>> one=3D20
>> can select the amount that they want to send. I think it all works great. =
> =3D
>> I=3D20
>> think it is too bad that only format 4 is supported as those files =
> are=3D20
>> really large but I understand that is how it had to be.
>>
>> I have already read a couple of audible books on the Book Port and love =
> =3D
>> how=3D20
>> easily it is to move back by a phrase if you want a sentence repeated. =
> =3D
>> What=3D20
>> is the logic behind the page numbering system? In other words, how does =
> =3D
>> the=3D20
>> Book Port determine what page you are on in an audible file or in a =3D
>> file=3D20
>> that started out as a .brf file for that matter?
>>
>> Robert Carter
>>
>> At 07:31 AM 6/9/2004, you wrote:
>>> Paul:
>>>
>>> You have to load each part of a book separately, because there is =
> nothing =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> binding those files together as a book. Yeah, the file names are =
> similar, =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> but you can't always count on this because of inconsistent naming.
>>>
>>> Regarding the combo boxes for start and end times...
>>>
>>> It sounds like someone like you should just ignore the boxes and press =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> Enter to get whatever will fit. The default for a file which is not on =
> =3D
>> the =3D3D
>>> device already is to start at the beginning, and send as much as will =
> =3D
>> fit. =3D3D
>>> If you already have the file on the device, the default is to start at =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> your last reading position and send as much as will fit.
>>>
>>> We had to come up with some kind of scheme to allow selecting how much =
> of =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> an Audible file to send, and 5 minute intervals seemed to be the best =
> =3D3D
>>> choice. Yeah, most people won't start at 15 minutes and send 30 minutes =
> =3D
>> of =3D3D
>>> material, but Audible sections can range from very short to very long, =
> =3D
>> and =3D3D
>>> limiting selections to sections would minimize flexibility for users =
> with =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> small flash cards.
>>>
>>> Perhaps we could skip the dialog if all of the file will fit? What do =
> =3D3D
>>> others think about the current scheme?
>>>
>>> Rob Meredith
>>>
>>>>>> paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 06/08/04 10:19PM >>>
>>> Hi, Larry and Rod. Never mind my last question. Turns out the book I =
> =3D3D
>>> was=3D3D20
>>> trying to load was not type four.
>>> I will have to go back and see if I can get it as type four.
>>> However, some comments.
>>> It takes an extremely long time to load one of these files, much =3D
>> slower=3D3D20
>>> than loading an mp3 file.
>>> Also, I was surprised that in a book that contains more than one file, =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> I=3D3D20
>>> have to load each part separately.
>>> And why the combo boxes that ask me where I want to start and end? If =
> =3D
>> I=3D3D20
>>> have plenty of room, why would I not want to start at the beginning and =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> end=3D3D20
>>> at the end<grin>? I don't understand the use of these boxes.
>>> Why would I want to start five minutes in or more?
>>> Thanks.
>
>
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