[bookport] Re: never mind my last question, but afewcomments

  • From: "ROB MEREDITH" <rmeredith@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:45:24 -0400

Robert:

Keeping in mind that Braille page numbers are at the bottom of the page, =
do you find that some books work and some don't, or do you find that all =
books are off by one? I am investigating with the books I have, and will =
make necessary changes.

>>> r-carter@xxxxxxx 06/09/04 09:16AM >>>
Hi,

With a couple of Web Braille books, I have noticed that the page number=20
seems to be about one number less than what the book is actually =
showing.=20
In other words, page 49 according to the braille page number will be =
shown=20
as page 48 by the Book Port page numbering system. Has anyone else =
noticed=20
this?

Robert Carter

At 08:09 AM 6/9/2004, you wrote:
>Robert:
>
>Page numbers are, in many cases, not related to any page numbers that may =
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>or may not exist in the material. Following are some examples of how page =
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>numbers are used.
>
>when you send a text file, the unit always starts with page 1, and will =
do =3D
>one of two things:
>
>1. If the file contains form feeds, they will be considered page breaks.
>
>2. If the file does not contain page breaks, the software will insert =
what =3D
>we call synthetic page breaks. Synthetic page breaks are currently =3D
>inserted after every eight paragraphs.
>
>When you send a .brf file, the software attempts to identify Braille page =
=3D
>numbering.
>
>If you send an MP3 file, you will start at page one, and every long pause =
=3D
>will be considered a new page. Using Send As Music will cause a page =
break =3D
>every 30 seconds.
>
>With Audible files a page is currently 5 minutes or the next section, =3D
>which ever comes first. Of course, they always start at page one.
>
>With Digital Talking Books which contain page mark-up, page numbers will =
=3D
>correspond to the page numbers in the original book. These books are the =
=3D
>most accurate use of the page numbering system.
>
>Rob Meredith
>
> >>> r-carter@xxxxxxx 06/09/04 08:53AM >>>
>Hi All,
>
>I think the current combo box scheme is just fine. It seems to allow one =
=3D
>to=3D20
>easily select the default which is the whole file if that will fit or =3D
>one=3D20
>can select the amount that they want to send. I think it all works great. =
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>I=3D20
>think it is too bad that only format 4 is supported as those files =
are=3D20
>really large but I understand that is how it had to be.
>
>I have already read a couple of audible books on the Book Port and love =
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>how=3D20
>easily it is to move back by a phrase if you want a sentence repeated. =
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>What=3D20
>is the logic behind the page numbering system? In other words, how does =
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>the=3D20
>Book Port determine what page you are on in an audible file or in a =3D
>file=3D20
>that started out as a .brf file for that matter?
>
>Robert Carter
>
>At 07:31 AM 6/9/2004, you wrote:
> >Paul:
> >
> >You have to load each part of a book separately, because there is =
nothing =3D
>=3D3D
> >binding those files together as a book. Yeah, the file names are =
similar, =3D
>=3D3D
> >but you can't always count on this because of inconsistent naming.
> >
> >Regarding the combo boxes for start and end times...
> >
> >It sounds like someone like you should just ignore the boxes and press =
=3D
>=3D3D
> >Enter to get whatever will fit. The default for a file which is not on =
=3D
>the =3D3D
> >device already is to start at the beginning, and send as much as will =
=3D
>fit. =3D3D
> >If you already have the file on the device, the default is to start at =
=3D
>=3D3D
> >your last reading position and send as much as will fit.
> >
> >We had to come up with some kind of scheme to allow selecting how much =
of =3D
>=3D3D
> >an Audible file to send, and 5 minute intervals seemed to be the best =
=3D3D
> >choice. Yeah, most people won't start at 15 minutes and send 30 minutes =
=3D
>of =3D3D
> >material, but Audible sections can range from very short to very long, =
=3D
>and =3D3D
> >limiting selections to sections would minimize flexibility for users =
with =3D
>=3D3D
> >small flash cards.
> >
> >Perhaps we could skip the dialog if all of the file will fit? What do =
=3D3D
> >others think about the current scheme?
> >
> >Rob Meredith
> >
> > >>> paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 06/08/04 10:19PM >>>
> >Hi, Larry and Rod. Never mind my last question. Turns out the book I =
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> >was=3D3D20
> >trying to load was not type four.
> >I will have to go back and see if I can get it as type four.
> >However, some comments.
> >It takes an extremely long time to load one of these files, much =3D
>slower=3D3D20
> >than loading an mp3 file.
> >Also, I was surprised that in a book that contains more than one file, =
=3D
>=3D3D
> >I=3D3D20
> >have  to load each part separately.
> >And why the combo boxes that ask me where I want to start and end? If =
=3D
>I=3D3D20
> >have plenty of room, why would I not want to start at the beginning and =
=3D
>=3D3D
> >end=3D3D20
> >at the end<grin>? I don't understand the use of these boxes.
> >Why would I want to start five minutes in or more?
> >Thanks.



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