Robert: Keeping in mind that Braille page numbers are at the bottom of the page, = do you find that some books work and some don't, or do you find that all = books are off by one? I am investigating with the books I have, and will = make necessary changes. >>> r-carter@xxxxxxx 06/09/04 09:16AM >>> Hi, With a couple of Web Braille books, I have noticed that the page number=20 seems to be about one number less than what the book is actually = showing.=20 In other words, page 49 according to the braille page number will be = shown=20 as page 48 by the Book Port page numbering system. Has anyone else = noticed=20 this? Robert Carter At 08:09 AM 6/9/2004, you wrote: >Robert: > >Page numbers are, in many cases, not related to any page numbers that may = =3D >or may not exist in the material. Following are some examples of how page = =3D >numbers are used. > >when you send a text file, the unit always starts with page 1, and will = do =3D >one of two things: > >1. If the file contains form feeds, they will be considered page breaks. > >2. If the file does not contain page breaks, the software will insert = what =3D >we call synthetic page breaks. Synthetic page breaks are currently =3D >inserted after every eight paragraphs. > >When you send a .brf file, the software attempts to identify Braille page = =3D >numbering. > >If you send an MP3 file, you will start at page one, and every long pause = =3D >will be considered a new page. Using Send As Music will cause a page = break =3D >every 30 seconds. > >With Audible files a page is currently 5 minutes or the next section, =3D >which ever comes first. Of course, they always start at page one. > >With Digital Talking Books which contain page mark-up, page numbers will = =3D >correspond to the page numbers in the original book. These books are the = =3D >most accurate use of the page numbering system. > >Rob Meredith > > >>> r-carter@xxxxxxx 06/09/04 08:53AM >>> >Hi All, > >I think the current combo box scheme is just fine. It seems to allow one = =3D >to=3D20 >easily select the default which is the whole file if that will fit or =3D >one=3D20 >can select the amount that they want to send. I think it all works great. = =3D >I=3D20 >think it is too bad that only format 4 is supported as those files = are=3D20 >really large but I understand that is how it had to be. > >I have already read a couple of audible books on the Book Port and love = =3D >how=3D20 >easily it is to move back by a phrase if you want a sentence repeated. = =3D >What=3D20 >is the logic behind the page numbering system? In other words, how does = =3D >the=3D20 >Book Port determine what page you are on in an audible file or in a =3D >file=3D20 >that started out as a .brf file for that matter? > >Robert Carter > >At 07:31 AM 6/9/2004, you wrote: > >Paul: > > > >You have to load each part of a book separately, because there is = nothing =3D >=3D3D > >binding those files together as a book. Yeah, the file names are = similar, =3D >=3D3D > >but you can't always count on this because of inconsistent naming. > > > >Regarding the combo boxes for start and end times... > > > >It sounds like someone like you should just ignore the boxes and press = =3D >=3D3D > >Enter to get whatever will fit. The default for a file which is not on = =3D >the =3D3D > >device already is to start at the beginning, and send as much as will = =3D >fit. =3D3D > >If you already have the file on the device, the default is to start at = =3D >=3D3D > >your last reading position and send as much as will fit. > > > >We had to come up with some kind of scheme to allow selecting how much = of =3D >=3D3D > >an Audible file to send, and 5 minute intervals seemed to be the best = =3D3D > >choice. Yeah, most people won't start at 15 minutes and send 30 minutes = =3D >of =3D3D > >material, but Audible sections can range from very short to very long, = =3D >and =3D3D > >limiting selections to sections would minimize flexibility for users = with =3D >=3D3D > >small flash cards. > > > >Perhaps we could skip the dialog if all of the file will fit? What do = =3D3D > >others think about the current scheme? > > > >Rob Meredith > > > > >>> paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 06/08/04 10:19PM >>> > >Hi, Larry and Rod. Never mind my last question. Turns out the book I = =3D3D > >was=3D3D20 > >trying to load was not type four. > >I will have to go back and see if I can get it as type four. > >However, some comments. > >It takes an extremely long time to load one of these files, much =3D >slower=3D3D20 > >than loading an mp3 file. > >Also, I was surprised that in a book that contains more than one file, = =3D >=3D3D > >I=3D3D20 > >have to load each part separately. > >And why the combo boxes that ask me where I want to start and end? If = =3D >I=3D3D20 > >have plenty of room, why would I not want to start at the beginning and = =3D >=3D3D > >end=3D3D20 > >at the end<grin>? I don't understand the use of these boxes. > >Why would I want to start five minutes in or more? > >Thanks.